В Чтв, 04/11/2010 в 10:44 +0100, lst_ho...@kwsoft.de пишет:
> Zitat von Покотиленко Костик <cas...@meteor.dp.ua>:
> 
> > В Срд, 03/11/2010 в 22:16 -0500, Noel Jones пишет:
> >> On 11/3/2010 10:00 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >> > On 2010-11-03 21:40:54 -0500, Noel Jones wrote:
> >> >> ".domain.tld" only works if parent_domain_matches_subdomains does NOT
> >> >> include smtpd_access maps.
> >> >
> >> > The man page says nothing like that. So, the documentation should be
> >> > fixed.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The vast majority of readers seem to interpret that section as
> >> intended.  You're welcome to post a documentation patch in a
> >> new thread, but I don't think the behavior or its
> >> documentation has changed in ~10 years, so don't hold your breath.
> >
> > Vast majority even believe in strange things...
> >
> > Actually I read that section exactly like Vincent Lefevre.
> >
> > I'll comment:
> >
> >> The access(5) man page says:
> >>
> >>       domain.tld
> >>            Matches domain.tld.
> >>
> >>            The  pattern  domain.tld also matches subdomains, but only
> >>            when the string smtpd_access_maps is listed in the Postfix
> >>            parent_domain_matches_subdomains   configuration  setting.
> >>            Otherwise, specify .domain.tld (note the initial  dot)  in
> >>            order to match subdomains.
> >
> > I read "Otherwise" as "If you don't like to depend on the value of
> > parent_domain_matches_subdomains"
> 
> "Otherwise" is clearly related to the last part of the previous  
> statement. If it is unclear, ask for clarification.

Actually it's not clear to what condition the "Otherwise" is a conter
part. So it's being decided by a reader's logic wich differs sometimes.

I'm myself understood the actual meaning only after clarification on
this list. And, pleople would ask for clarification only if they can't
understand what is being ment, and not in case they think they
unsterstand.

Also, it's completelly unstated that ".domain.tld" notation doesn't work
if smtpd_access_maps is listed in parent_domain_matches_subdomains.

>  Crying loud  
> "serious bug" because your language interpretation is different from  
> others is not helpful at all.

List subscriber classified this situation as a "serious bug" from it's
point of view, and I think this is correct. If you don't agree, just
reclassify it.

BTW, clear docs save much time for both, the user, the list.

So, I suggest rewritiing this paragraph as following:

            The  pattern  domain.tld also matches subdomains, but only
            when the string smtpd_access_maps is listed in the Postfix
            parent_domain_matches_subdomains   configuration  setting.
            The  pattern .domain.tld (note the initial  dot) matches
            only subdomains and only when the string
            smtpd_access_maps is NOT listed in the Postfix
            parent_domain_matches_subdomains configuration setting,
            otherwise it's ignored.

Is this correct?

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Покотиленко Костик <cas...@meteor.dp.ua>

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