On 09/21/2010 09:18 PM, Jay G. Scott wrote:
they haven't started shouting yet, but i sense it's coming.

i just swapped postfix in for sendmail on a mail server.

Congratulations , you've arrived on the right side of sanity :)

are there any metrics i can get to show why postfix is better?

What "metrics" would these be ?
If you want to compare how postfix performs for you then you would need to have metrics for your old mail system to start with - do you have those ?

If not, there's nothing to discuss - or compare.

they seem to be all up in arms about memory usage.

Memory is incredibly cheap these days - if you can't reach your goals with a few GB of RAM, you're running a pretty high volume system, processing hundreds if not thousands of concurrent messages.

On today's hardware, you're going to bottleneck on disk I/O wayyy before memory is ever a problem.

but doing this
ps -eo pid,vsz,rss,pmem,time,comm | grep sendmail
vs. this
ps -eo uid,pid,vsz,rss,pmem,time,comm | grep 33508

doesn't show much diff in rss.

You're not showing any actual data, so how are we to argue ?
How many threads are we talking about ? 100 concurrent clients and SMTP delivery sessions ? 1000 ? 10000 ?

   postfix is more secure,
so i read on the web, but that's intangible.

Why is testable security intangible ?

If you want one fact why I think postfix is more secure than sendmail, it's simple: I can read and understand the postfix config. I can't decypher the sendmail cf file, so I have no way of proving that it is secure, even if I managed to configure it for my requirements.


i don't think i need to be exhaustive.  but right now
i don't have anything i can use to win this argument,
objectively, anyway.

It's not an argument you can win objectively - if such were possible, nobody would be using MS Exchange anymore.

It's ultimately down to your comfort level, your requirements, and - most of all - cost! If you lack the knowledge to maintain either, both will be expensive for you to run.


j.

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J.

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