-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 23:20:04 +0100
> Von: mouss <mo...@ml.netoyen.net>
> An: postfix-users@postfix.org
> Betreff: Re: anti spam measures

> Steve a écrit :
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:37:18 +0100
> >> Von: mouss <mo...@ml.netoyen.net>
> >> An: postfix users list <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> >> Betreff: Re: anti spam measures
> > 
> >> Roman Gelfand a écrit :
> >>> I am running postfix with anti spam filter (policyd-weight, sqlgrey,
> >>> grossd, dkim, senderid-milter, dspam) .  With this configuration, I am
> >>> down to under 10 spams a day.  Looking at my backend server which is
> >>> exchange 2007, I find that all of the remaining spam messages have
> >>> spam confidence level of 7 or greater, which implies this is blatant
> >>> spam.  Is there spam filter software software that works with postfix
> >>> that can perform checks similar to that of exchange 2007 spam
> >>> confidence level?
> >>>
> >> we can't really tell since we didn't see the messages that made it
> >> through postfix+friends.
> >>
> >> if the messages contained a URI listed at uribl or surbl, then you
> could
> >> try using uribl/surbl via milter-link or via spamassassin (via
> >> amavisd-new).
> >>
> >> anyway, You can add spamassassin (via amavisd-new) to your chain and
> see
> >>  if it improves your filtering.
> >>
> > I am for sure one of the people that should keep his mouth shut since I
> have a to strong bias but SpamAssassin? Why? He is using DSPAM and if I
> would purpose him another free solution then only something like CMR114 or
> OSBF-Lua.
> > 
> 
> because I don't believe he will improve his filtering by adding more
> statistical filters (I think: if this was true, he can improve by better
> training/tuning of dspam).
>
Correct.


> In contrsat, adding a finely tuned heuristic
> filter will certainly improve his results.
> 
True.


> one example: Justin Mason anti-fraud rules (JM_SOUGHT*) will block fraud
> mail that you can't block statistically (because you don't get enough of
> it to train a statistical filter). unless if you are a large ISP/MSP
> with users who report fraud mail quickly and you train your filter with
> these reports quickly.
> 
Or you use other ways to filter them out (not statistically).


> other examples include: URIBL rules (granted, you can use milter-link),
> DNSxL rules applied to Received headers (mail that is "touched" by a
> host in Spamhaus SBL is unwanted!)...
> 
> Once again, I said "add spamassassin" not replace dspam. This is because
> OP wanted to block "more". but adding SA in a way that improves his
> results is not effort free. which is why I said:
> 
Right.


> > 
> >> at one time, the question becomes: is the additional effort worth the
> >> pain?
> >>
> > Good question.
> 
> I personally am from the school of access control before content
> filtering.
>
Me too :)


> so I don't feel comfortable arguing for SA vs dspam vs
> foofilter.
>
As I wrote before: I am to biased in that topic so I am not going to argue 
either.
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