Ok, so, in other words: that's a solution but not the better solution.

Now, i can ALSO use thge sendmail wrapper. I need to have a look at
postfwd code to see if and where i can increment mail counters.

In this way, i will use postfwd for mail coming from CGI scripts and
Remote SMTP, and the wrapper for mail coming from php. But, with an
unique counter.

Any other idea?

2009/7/13 Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>:
> On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:51 AM, "ad...@gg-lab.net" <ad...@gg-lab.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> i don't think my situation keeps changing-
>>
>> That's simple: on my evinronment users can send email via CGI + PHP +
>> SMTP (sasl), and i want to limit them "globally".
>>
>> Example: user giorgio can send 100 emails. I want him locked also on
>> CGI, if he send 100 emails with PHP.
>>
>> I can't:
>>
>> - use a custom php sendmail wrapper -> it would only work with php
>> - limit the sender -> a randomized from would broke my limit
>> - limit the host -> all mail are sent from localhost
>> - limit via sasl -> i can't request all users to authenticate
>>
>> Limiting the envelope user, is perfect for me. But, i'm asking if
>> there is a simplier solution.
>
> The postfwd policy server solution works with the envelope sender.  But for
> that to work you need mail coming in on an smtpd listener for the policy
> server to be queried, which won't be the case when you have mail being
> submitted via pickup service.
>
>
>>
>> 2009/7/13 Sahil Tandon <sa...@tandon.net>:
>>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 5:54 AM, "ad...@gg-lab.net" <ad...@gg-lab.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lucian, i saw that solution, but i want something that can globally
>>>> limit EVERY mail sent:
>>>>
>>>> i'll also offer smtp access, and a sendmail wrapper isn't a solution.
>>>>
>>>> Benny: ok, so we are speaking about the evenlope sender, so, it seems
>>>> this is the solution.
>>>
>>> What are you trying to do exactly?  Your requirements and situation keep
>>> changing with every email.  Use examples with all details to explain
>>> exactly
>>> what you want.
>>>
>>> Benny - postfwd is sasl_username aware.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/7/13 Benny Pedersen <m...@junc.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, July 13, 2009 09:51, ad...@gg-lab.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> i want to limit mail sent via php mainly, so i can't limit via sasl
>>>>>> simply because users aren't authenticated.
>>>>>
>>>>> remove 127.0.0.1 in mynetworks, and make sasl usage from all what got
>>>>> sent from this box, problem solved, next step is a policy
>>>>> server that can handle sasl limits
>>>>>
>>>>> all else will fail
>>>>>
>>>>> another way is to seperate web and mail server so 127.0.0.1 is another
>>>>> box :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course i can't limit the host ip (all mail sent from my webserver).
>>>>>
>>>>> as Obama says "yes we can" :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> The most beautiful thing would be limiting system user (each user has
>>>>>> an entry in /etc/passwd). Limiting the sender would be unuseful,
>>>>>> because all spammers randomiza the sender, bypassing the limit.
>>>>>
>>>>> randomize there from: but not envelope sender (apa...@myhostname)
>>>>>
>>>>> and this email is unknown in my virtual alias for good reason, apache
>>>>> is
>>>>> local and stays here at so
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, i know that cPanel with Exim has a limit of this tipe. I'll
>>>>>> request them WHAT is exactly limited (maybe we can replicate with
>>>>>> postfix).
>>>>>
>>>>> dont use cpanel here so cant say how thay mix up the problem
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll also write to the postfix-policyd mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> i work on something to fail2ban, will need to write some php and extend
>>>>> policyd 1.80 more to handle this here, point is that none
>>>>> have done it before so when i make it, it will be the best :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sahil, maybe we can continue here? Postfixfw rules are completely in
>>>>>> topic and maybe we can help someone else...
>>>>>
>>>>> exactly
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> xpoint
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

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