John Doe:
> Hi Wietse and Viktor,
> 
> Replying in one email ...
> 
> I'm attaching what You have required from me. and one more fail proof, with
> tlsproxy setting enabled in main.cf (lat time i have forgotten to enable
> them back- sorry)
> 
> *I believe issue was fixed,* but it's a bit confusing now,* to show this I
> have ran postconf -x *not postconf -xh and -d to see what's default in 3.8.5
> 
> [root@problematicsrv]# postconf-internal -x tlsproxy_client_security_level
> tlsproxy_client_security_level =

The output is empty because...

> [root@problematicsrv]# postconf-internal -d tlsproxy_client_security_level
> tlsproxy_client_security_level =

...the default for tlsproxy_client_security_level value is empty.

On my systems:

Output from postconf -d tlsproxy_client_security_level:
Postfix 3.10: tlsproxy_client_security_level = 
${tlsproxy_client_level:$smtp_tls_security_level}
Postfix  3.9: tlsproxy_client_security_level = 
${tlsproxy_client_level:$smtp_tls_security_level}
Postfix  3.8: tlsproxy_client_security_level = 
${tlsproxy_client_level:$smtp_tls_security_level}
Postfix  3.7: tlsproxy_client_security_level = 
${tlsproxy_client_level:$smtp_tls_security_level}

Output from postconf -d tlsproxy_client_level:
Postfix  3.6: tlsproxy_client_level = $smtp_tls_security_level
Postfix  3.5: tlsproxy_client_level = $smtp_tls_security_level

You mention that Postfix is built locally from source code. Perhaps
there is a problem with the way that Postfix is built, or with the
way that Postfix is deployed. Postfix has no 'postconf-internal'
etc. command.

Perhaps you can use postmulti to manage your external and internal
Postfix instances. 

I'm adding a check to the tlsproxy daemon for TLS parameter values
that don't enable TLS as expected.

        Wietse
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