On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 11:54:42 +0200
Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users <postfix-users@postfix.org>
wrote:

> >> On Thu, Apr 03, 2025 at 11:16:15AM +0200, Paul Neuwirth via
> >> Postfix-users wrote:  
> >> > after an upgrade of postfix I am checking my config.
> >> >
> >> > I am in the impression, this should work:
> >> > # openssl s_client -connect mail.swabian.net:465 -starttls smtp
> >> > -tls1_3 CONNECTED(00000003)
> >> > Didn't find STARTTLS in server response, trying anyway...
> >> > write:errno=32  
> 
> >On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 11:22:24 +0200
> >"Herbert J. Skuhra via Postfix-users" <postfix-users@postfix.org>
> >wrote:  
> >> Either remove '-starttls smtp' or use port 587.  
> 
> On 03.04.25 11:29, Paul Neuwirth via Postfix-users wrote:
> >ok, that means I was wrong with the impression, that this should work
> >on port 465.  
> 
> "-starttls smtp" should work on ports 25/587 where plaintext is
> default. (587 should require starttle before it allows anything).
> 
> on port 465, TLS should be the default and starttls should not make
> sense.
> 
> 

that makes totally sense.

I am struggling with that scanner:
https://siwecos.de/en/app

it says:

for

SMTPS Scanner [SMTPS_TLS]
SMTP MSA(STARTTLS) Scanner [SMTP_MSA_TLS]
SMTP(STARTTLS) Scanner [SMTP_TLS] 
"TLS not supported"

for mail.swabian.net

I have no idea, what version or cipher they test. that's why I tried
with openssl s_client and I cannot find any issues. :-(

contacted their support, but doubt I'll get a reply.

Regards,

Paul
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