Oh, i blindly followed Reply-To: it seems.

--- Forwarded from Steffen Nurpmeso <stef...@sdaoden.eu> ---
Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 21:43:00 +0100
Author: Steffen Nurpmeso <stef...@sdaoden.eu>
From: Steffen Nurpmeso <stef...@sdaoden.eu>
To: Wietse Venema <wie...@porcupine.org>
Subject: Re: [pfx] PATCH: 8bit GECOS in From not encoded?
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Wietse Venema wrote in
 <4y1jct170dzj...@spike.porcupine.org>:
 |Wietse Venema via Postfix-users:
 |> The cleanup_out_header() function autodetects that a header needs
 |> SMTPUTF8, including headers added with a header_checks PREPEND
 |> action, but that function is not called for headers that are generated
 |> by Postfix or added with a Milter request, because there was no
 |> need prior to SMTPUTF8.
 |> 
 |> This is not going to be a one-line fix.

Only to mention that POSIX mailx by default "skin"s addresses, ie,
it removes anything from the field except for the email address as
such, and it also only generates these.

 |The quick fix, for SMTP UTF8 autodetection with GECOS info, can be

Could also be looking for 8-bit set and not generating full name
if any is found (thus).  (Ie, in UTF-8 locale...)

My personal feeling, i am sure all of you linger to hear it
(oh-oh)  always has been that all that UTF-8 email stuff (RFC
6530, 6531, 6532) is a terrible thing.
I still remember that Microsoft guy giving a fluent and eloquent
talk on that UTF-8 email, and how nice an IMF 5322 message looks
if all UTF-8, ie, no RFC 2047 or 2231, and what not.
It was a plain text message with Date and Subject.
(This may take a while for non-nerds.)

I do not really get it that is, you have a database format here,
a transfer format there, with decade old established and
standardized syntax, and why that really has to become changed en
large (and mind you *how* heavy the dependency on ICU is, .. for
*that*), for all those NSA/BND/FSB/.. people who watch it flew by
over wireshark or something like that.
That is: i know people (heard them say) they do re-encode message
when they store that in their local archive, i know the nmh mailer
people are really keen on that, but 99 percent of all people look
at the stuff in a graphical mailer .. so isn't that a grotesque?
  ...
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--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
|
|And in Fall, feel "The Dropbear Bard"s ball(s).
|
|The banded bear
|without a care,
|Banged on himself for e'er and e'er
|
|Farewell, dear collar bear
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