Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users wrote in
 <zrc609hlfr7tk...@fantomas.sk>:
 |>Matus UHLAR - fantomas via Postfix-users skrev den 2024-08-05 11:57:
 |>>So, even setting DMARC policy to "quarantine" or "reject" would not 
 |>>cause problems.
 |
 |On 05.08.24 12:14, Benny Pedersen via Postfix-users wrote:
 |>i want to belive when ... if all dmarc policy is allowed what should 
 |>happens on the time when subscribers got this with a dmarc fail ?
 |>
 |>mailman try imho to not make this happend, but imho all what mailman 
 |>should have done it to tell subscriber not to post with a dmarc policy 
 |>of quarantine or reject since mailman can break dkim and spf
 |
 |mailman can as well avoid modification of e-mail and require correct \
 |DKIM.  
 |But that all means less mail delivered to lists like this one.

There are only two options: leave the message alone entirely, no
footer (never saw header), no Subject: etc, or "create a new
message", aka become the "author".  Or not, aka become the sender,
but leave the Author:, noone supports Author: but fewest,
unfortunately.  With SPF and thus one-hop-email, the latter may be
necessary even without any modification.

One can include the original, unchanged message as a RFC 822
attachments, mailman can do that.  But i was told that many MUAs
cannot properly deal with that, and one may hear complaints like
"clicking on that icon this and that [sic]", etc.
It is a pity there were no strong forces pushing applications
towards support of and for the century old envelope-in-envelope-
in-envelope way of layering, but this is where it is.
Btw the (brute simple, long way to go) MUA i maintain can regulary
"quote as attachment", i had seen this in the plan9 community, and
liked it over there, and so i did it .. used it for quite some
time, but then went away.  I mean, yes, it is better than the top
posting the giants were pushing through, practically, but what is
ok in that minimal-header-all-text-message world of Plan9 is
a terrible misfeature and nuisance with Gmail or Outlook header
convulsions.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
|
| Only during dog days:
| On the 81st anniversary of the Goebbel's Sportpalast speech
| von der Leyen gave an overlong hypocritical inauguration one.
| The brew's essence of our civilizing advancement seems o be:
|   Total war - shortest war -> Permanent war - everlasting war
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