Hello Wietse,

* Wietse Venema <wie...@porcupine.org> [090210 15:11]:
> > I still don't get why postfix sends me a soft bounce to notify me
> > that I'm running out of diskspace. 

> Have you looked at the LOGFILE?

Not yet, but now I have and I don't like what I see:

Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4269]: connect from 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4269]: 5FAD63F8C: 
client=erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/cleanup[4135]: 5FAD63F8C: 
message-id=<20090210001614.4a70f44ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/qmgr[23797]: 5FAD63F8C: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=1190, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4269]: disconnect from 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtp[4307]: 5FAD63F8C: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, 
relay=erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10], delay=0, status=deferred (host 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.
de[194.138.228.10] said: 452 Insufficient system storage (in reply to MAIL FROM 
command))
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4254]: connect from 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4254]: 88D903F8D: 
client=erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/cleanup[4123]: 88D903F8D: 
message-id=<20090210001614.6fa6a44ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/qmgr[23797]: 88D903F8D: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=1190, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4254]: disconnect from 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtp[4306]: 88D903F8D: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, 
relay=erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10], delay=0, status=deferred (host 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.
de[194.138.228.10] said: 452 Insufficient system storage (in reply to MAIL FROM 
command))
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4269]: connect from 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4269]: B14483FC6: 
client=erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/cleanup[4135]: B14483FC6: 
message-id=<20090210001614.9a73344ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/qmgr[23797]: B14483FC6: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=1190, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtpd[4269]: disconnect from 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld603x postfix/smtp[4043]: B14483FC6: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, 
relay=erld671x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.10], delay=0, status=deferred (host 
erld671x.erlf.siemens.
de[194.138.228.10] said: 452 Insufficient system storage (in reply to MAIL FROM 
command))

so what happened. erld671x is out of resources, it send an e-mail to
postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de but because it is horrible
misconfigured it sends that e-mail over its smart host which delivers it
back, which results in a tempfailure which again triggers an out of
resource e-mail. Thank you for staying with me on this one.

Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: connect from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]: 452 Insufficient system storage; 
proto=ESMTP helo=<erld604x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: warning: not enough free space in 
mail queue: 1966080 bytes < 1.5*message size limit
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/cleanup[6618]: 0C1A544BAF6B: 
message-id=<20090210001614.0c1a544ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 0C1A544BAF6B: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=958, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: disconnect from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtp[6620]: 0C1A544BAF6B: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, orig_to=<postmaster>, 
relay=mailrelay.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203], delay=0, status=sent (250
Ok: queued as 230253F82)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 0C1A544BAF6B: removed
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: connect from 
erld603x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from 
erld603x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203]: 452 Insufficient system storage; 
proto=ESMTP helo=<erld603x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: warning: not enough free space in 
mail queue: 1957888 bytes < 1.5*message size limit
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/cleanup[6618]: 1F41144BAF6B: 
message-id=<20090210001614.1f41144ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 1F41144BAF6B: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=958, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: disconnect from 
erld603x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtp[6620]: 1F41144BAF6B: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, orig_to=<postmaster>, 
relay=mailrelay.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204], delay=0, status=sent (250
Ok: queued as 23756637B4)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 1F41144BAF6B: removed
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: connect from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]: 452 Insufficient system storage; 
proto=ESMTP helo=<erld604x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: warning: not enough free space in 
mail queue: 1953792 bytes < 1.5*message size limit
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/cleanup[6618]: 35ABA44BAF6B: 
message-id=<20090210001614.35aba44ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 35ABA44BAF6B: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=958, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: disconnect from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtp[6620]: 35ABA44BAF6B: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, orig_to=<postmaster>, 
relay=mailrelay.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204], delay=0, status=sent (250
Ok: queued as 3827B637B6)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 35ABA44BAF6B: removed
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: connect from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]: 452 Insufficient system storage; 
proto=ESMTP helo=<erld604x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: warning: not enough free space in 
mail queue: 1953792 bytes < 1.5*message size limit
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/cleanup[6618]: 4A70F44BAF6B: 
message-id=<20090210001614.4a70f44ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 4A70F44BAF6B: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=958, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: disconnect from 
erld604x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtp[6620]: 4A70F44BAF6B: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, orig_to=<postmaster>, 
relay=mailrelay.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203], delay=0, status=sent (250
Ok: queued as 5FAD63F8C)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 4A70F44BAF6B: removed
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: connect from 
erld603x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: NOQUEUE: reject: MAIL from 
erld603x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203]: 452 Insufficient system storage; 
proto=ESMTP helo=<erld603x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: warning: not enough free space in 
mail queue: 1953792 bytes < 1.5*message size limit
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/cleanup[6618]: 5C50F44BAF6B: 
message-id=<20090210001614.5c50f44ba...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/qmgr[10111]: 5C50F44BAF6B: 
from=<double-bou...@erlf.siemens.de>, size=958, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtpd[6621]: disconnect from 
erld603x.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.203]
Feb 10 01:16:14 erld671x postfix/smtp[6620]: 5C50F44BAF6B: 
to=<postmas...@erld671x.erlf.siemens.de>, orig_to=<postmaster>, 
relay=mailrelay.erlf.siemens.de[194.138.228.204], delay=0, status=sent (250
Ok: queued as 5BDDC637B8)

> > that softbounce and so on until I'm out of resources. Shouldn't postfix
> > detect that this is a tempfailure and do exactly nothing and retry a few
> > hours later? Again this was with postfix version 2.1.1.

> Not if you turn on postmaster notification for resource problems.

I was unaware of that option. Thank you for explicitly mention it:

(erld603x) [~] postconf | grep -i notify
notify_classes = resource, software

        Thomas

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