Hi,

> > It happens very very often that users enter an invalid email
> > address or just senseless texts. So the webmaster-address
> > receives all the backscatter from undeliverable mail.
> 
> This is not backscatter. this is a legitimate bounce.

Ok, sorry, I've used the wrong term - I'm talking about
exactly those ligitimate bounce messages.

> > Now I want to change the envelope FROM (and the header From)
> > address to a non-existing address (like [EMAIL PROTECTED]),
> > and set the Reply-To-Header to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> 
> Instead of playing bad games, set the envelope sender to a specific 
> address.
> 
> > The idea behind this: the backscatter caused by undeliverable
> > mail will go to /dev/null, while all regular replies to one
> > of those auto-generated emails will reach the webmaster.
> > 
> 
> and what if I want to complain by replying to the From or Reply-to? what 
> if as a new admin, I want you to cease sending to an old address? ... etc.

Hmmm. Maybe I did not understand you, or you me... ;-)

I want the From address to be set to something like [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A mail sent to this address will cause no error, but nobody will
read those emails.

The Reply-To-address will become a really existing address which is read
by someone, so that replying to an email works as expected.


So all those "legitimate bounces", which go to the envelope FROM address
(= address in From: header, caused by our email sending tool) will be
received by our server, but never read by someone;  and all ligitmate
replies, which go to the Reply-To address, will be received and read
normally.

Because bounces go to the envelope FROM, and I dont want to receive
bounces, I have to set the envelope FROM to a "dummy" mail address. 
The address in the From: header could be "my" email address, but because
of limitations in the used email sending tool the From: header address
and the envelope FROM always equal.
Maybe the weak point here is the From: header address being always the
same as the envelope FROM ?


> don't think this will be a simple projet: it is not. make sure to get
> it right. every time you send a message, you will be judged. and if
> you are judged wrong, you won't have any chance to fix thing (once you
> are in our private ACLs, you will never be able to get out. and once 
> hotmail/yahoo/.... have computed your "reputation", you'll have ahard 
> time changing it).

This part I dont't understand. When our web application sends the
following mail:

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the "MAIL FROM" during SMTP communication,
and there is no "somebody" at Yahoo, a bounce message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] could be the result. This address is a valid
address, but all emails sent to this address will be thrown away
as soon as received. How wants Yahoo detect this and blame me for this?


Ahm - maybe we misunderstood in this point: all references to
"example.com" in my postings should be replaced by my REAL domain
name - of course I do not want to send mails with "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
as sender address - I've used it just as a placeholder... :)


Regards
-stefan-



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