Dean_Bayliss wrote: 
> The 410 error is part of the delay preset problem.  On 11-Feb-17
> 11:03:51 am, the radio was taken out of standby.  This is done using the
> preset.  The radio actually wanted to go back to 10 Feb 2017 19:35:53
> GMT.  It was put into standby at 19:35 the day before.   It can't go
> back to that time (nor do I want it to!) hence the error in the log and
> the message on the screen to say it is in delay mode with lots of
> minutes delay (3 hrs).  I guess the BBC streaming team will also be
> seeing these requests for times that no longer exist.  This doesn't
> always happen...  sometimes taking the radio out of standby in this way
> does not produce the error.  
1.4.* uses a different HTTP GET mechanism and so doesn't showlogs for
errors- so the problem may be a case of not displaying error rather than
no error.

Since you are4 in the UK - it seem however you "put radio into standby"
is makling radio stream pause rather than stop. *What is the Resume
setting in WebUI Setting/Player/Audiuo" specifically is it one with 
"Pause at Power off" or rather than "Stop on Power off"*
If BBCiPlayer is pausing the stream then technically it is working
perfectly since you pause a stream for a long time.

>  In version 1.4.10 - simply going into standby and then out at some
> other time takes you straight to the live stream - no delay.  So
> something is different on the RPI (without RTC) between 1.4.10 and the
> newer versions.
Yes - Pause behaviour (assuming you have set "Pause on Power off")  with
long delays was "fixed" unfortunately didn't expect users pausing for
more then 3 hours.

> The preset is a button on the radio - the url in the LMS for that button
> is 
> - URL:
> iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.m3u8&dash=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_fourfm.mpd&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_fourfm/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c204/09320&onair=bbc_radio_fourfm
> * * text: BBC Radio 4
> 
This is OK but it may change between versions of plugin.

Perhaps there is something wrong with that preset format?  Is this the
problem?

On this message:

[17-02-14 20:59:45.0578] main::init (384) Starting Logitech Media Server
(v7.9.0, 1461959934, Fri Apr 29 20:36:57 UTC 2016) perl 5.014002 -
arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int
[17-02-15 00:21:14.4710] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor
(543) Invalid estimated delay 11354 streamtime=1487106720
[17-02-15 00:21:14.4790] Plugins::BBCiPlayer::iPlayer::getMetadataFor
(543) Invalid estimated delay 11354 streamtime=1487106720

Nothing was activated on a radio as far as know it just appeared.  I can
reload 1.5.3 again, to see if I can replicate.

Problem for me is to move to 1.5.2 or 3 gives this strange problem with
the radios.  It happens virtually every day - as soon as you come out of
standby, which if you don't spot means you are listening to something
for up to 3 hrs old! and must be confusing for anyone at the BBC looking
at the error requests from squeezebox dash streams asking for audio that
is way past 3 hrs old.  Hope this makes some sense and thanks for all
the work you do on this for us!


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