Thanks for the thorough, in-depth review of Hannah Montana Linux.
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025, at 3:51 AM, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote: > >> On Jan 26, 2025, at 12:51 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:44:19 -0700 >> >> >>> And when claiming ChatGPT is giving you unbiased information about >>> politics, especially anything that involves Trump, you’re fooling >>> yourself. Trump says whatever he wants and doesn’t care because he >>> conned the SCOTUS into ruling that he has “absolute immunity”. >> >> See. I knew the original post would come to the preceding. >> >> SteveT > I guess that means you will NEVER, EVER, under ANY circumstances, complain > about the shift happening on large social media platforms to stop > fact-checking things. > > Because what we call the “truth” today is now a matter of political > convenience and leverage rather than rooted in anything based in fact. > > And if facts and truth are unrooted, then why should you expect anything on a > platform like ChatGPT to be any different? > > > Remember that this whole conversation started out with an assertion that > ChatGPT is a BETTER SOURCE OF FACTS AND TRUTH than traditional news media. > For media that cares about the FACTS and it’s own INTEGRITY, then I’d say > that’s total BS. My experience with these AI platforms is that it’s VERY > BUGGY in terms of accuracy. Unfortunately, if you aren’t familiar with the > subject matter, you’re not going to know that. Or even if you are but you > trust it and don’t bother reviewing the material with a critical eye. > > > FWIW, I was having an interesting conversation with ChatGPT about a variety > of financial topics, and at one point it showed a split-screen type of > display and asked my opinion about which response I thought was better — the > one on the left or the one on the right. It was the same basic info just > presented differently. > > i chose the one on the right, even though it had a blatent error in it that > was displayed correct on the left side: > > In a bullet item that related to a corporation making a loan to you as an > owner/employee, it said this regarding the interest paid on the loan: > >> *You repay the loan with interest, and the business can even deduct the >> interest as a business expense!* > > In fact, this was the most BLATENT error I found during the rather lengthy > discussion we had, but hardly the only error I encountered. (I caught over a > dozen, and I’m not a CPA or even an accountant.) > > > As far as people who like to wave stinky allegations about “the Biden crime > family” taking a $10M bribe” — the one that a Senate investigation turned up > nothing but a guy who lied repeatedly to the FBI, then owned-up and SAID IT > WAS ALL A LIE — and yet don’t even wince when someone mentions that Trump’s > son-in-law — with absolutely zero experience doing financial management — was > handed $2 BILLION to manage and given a 1.25% management fee ($25M), then I > rest my case. > > NEITHER OF THESE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS IS FACTUALLY DISPUTABLE. THE FORMER IS A > BLATENT LIE THAT’S REPEATED OVER AND OVER AS IF IT’S TRUE, AND THE LATTER IS > 100% FACTUAL THAT NOBODY WHO REPEATS THE FORMER LIE WILL **EVER** DISCUSS! > > Facts don’t matter any more. It’s that simple. They're merely a lever to be > used by political opportunists. > > Just for contrast, the alleged $10M “bribe” paid to “Biden crime family” is > just a bit smaller than the ~$25M fee — paid ANNUALLY — to the “Trump crime > family” as part of a totally inexplicable transaction that nobody in their > right mind could rationalize given the other “facts” in play (that are also > totally ignored). > > I’M NOT TALKING POLITICS HERE!!!! > > This thred is about one simple question: DO FACTS STILL MATTER? > > There are people who will go to their death bed swearing that the LIE in the > case above is more compelling than the TRUTH. I know that. Y’all know that. > And I’m sure someone here might even be tempted to try defending it. (That > would only reinforce what I just said here.) > > If 40 milloin people “can’t be wrong” about this, then who are we to say > ChatGPT isn't 100% factual AND more accurate than traditional news outlets — > in spite of the clear evidence to the contrary? > > If you want to argue politics, then declare where you stand FIRST about > whether FACTS MATTER TO YOU. > > Because if they do, then don’t waste our time with lies. > > Most political discussions today are a waste of time because they have become > rooted in lies. And I am not interested in debating lies. > > -David Schwartz > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >
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