As a software developer of 15 years, I personally would not want a union, at least not one in a traditional sense. Additionally, I've never been in a union so maybe my understanding is wrong or outdated, however my reasoning for not wanting one are: 1. I want my salary/benefits to be based on what I personally can bring to the table. 2. Similarly to #1, if I and/or my team perform better than the rest of the company, I want us to be recognized for that *and* compensated appropriately. 3. I don't want to start at the bottom of the totem pole at a new company because I'm the new guy. 4. I don't want to work with people that should have been let go due to their performance but are effectively being protected by the union. 5. I don't want to be forced to strike because the union is playing political games that I don't care about. There's a time and place for unions; when you're in the top 10% of national salaries, you're not in a position to need one.
All that said, I work remotely, for a company that's not based in Arizona, and therefore am paid relatively well compared to the local Market. On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, at 11:53 AM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > would it be time to unionize or change the way business is done in AZ? > > On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:50:10 AM MST, trent shipley > <trent.ship...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > No. As a rule software engineers/programmers/developers/computer scientists > all see themselves as professionals who are above unionizing and seldom or > never do. I think we're seeing the effect of Arizona being a provincial, 3rd > world location for headquarters and software development options. > > It's similar to "we make the chips. We aren't friken good enough to DESIGN > the chips. They do that in NICE places." > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 9:35 AM greg zegan <gjze...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Wow! >> thanks. >> sure look like they are taking advantage of the Right to work state workers. >> >> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 09:08:07 AM MST, trent shipley via >> PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >> >> https://www.onetonline.org/link/localwages/15-1251.00?st=AZ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >
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