oh boy. This sounds like another Y2K problem, only this one has some reality about it and real consequences.
-eric from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Truth or Consequences Dept. On Jan 5, 2018, at 9:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > I think they have a moral obligation to destroy all effected chips that are > in the pipeline. Dell and others need to stop sales and not continue selling > until the CPU is fixed. > > This is much bigger than we know. Almost every computer is effected. The > intermittent fix is software. What keeps some smart and devious person from > creating an app that replaced the patch with their own and then they can > drain your bank account... crash your automated or self driving car.... Yikes. > > The real solution is a new generation of chips that are not exploitable. > That means replacing every computer and device that is effected. > > This should be a wake up call to all of us. We are way too dependent on > computers. > > There will be major fireworks over this. I can see a lot of companies > getting sued. And the only ones that win are the lawyers. > > This is going to be with us for years. > > I have 7 computers that can be or already are connected to the internet. A > lot of it is old technology, however it's value is in testing. I am a > software developer. As long as I keep them on a private net I am ok.... > Otherwise I will need to replace at least 2. > > This is a potential nightmare.... Patching hardware with software is a weak > plan. All that need to happen is some wise person to figure out how to > replace the patch with their own. Say good by to our economy if that happens. > > What a mess!! > > > > > > > > > On 2018-01-03 18:12, Matthew Crews wrote: > >> I would be more concerned IF the next gen CPU has this fixed. All's I know >> is that if Intel wants to fix the very next gen, they will need to scrap a >> lot of silicon that has already been finished. >> >> >> Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. >> >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On Jan 3, 2018, 15:35, Nathan O'Brennan wrote: >> >> >> I'm more curious to know which versions of Intel's upcoming chips have been >> fixed already. I would like to upgrade my current workstation in the next >> year and will stick with Intel despite any performance impact over AMD. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2018-01-03 00:43, Aaron Jones wrote: >> >> >> I read the performance hit for Intel chips will be %35 or so after the fix. >> >> On Jan 2, 2018, at 7:49 PM, Eric Oyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> so, does this mean that the UEFI might get patched first? OR, does the OS >> ecology have to do so first? Lastly, how much of a performance hit will this >> represent? >> >> -eric >> from the central offices of the Technomage Guild, the "oh look! yet another >> bug!" Dept. >> >> On Jan 2, 2018, at 3:39 PM, Matthew Crews wrote: >> >> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/ >> >> In a nutshell, it is a major security flaw in Intel hardware dating back a >> decade that is requiring a complete kernel rewrite for every major OS >> (Linux, Windows, Mac, etc) in order to patch out. It cannot be patched out >> with a CPU microcode update. Major enough that code comments are redacted in >> the patches until an embargo period is expired. Also the reported fix will >> have a huge performance impact. >> >> Also crucial to note is that AMD chips are not affected by this. >> >> How the heck does something like this go unnoticed for so long? >> >> >> >> >> Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [email protected] > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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