> Whatever happened to good ole' x, y and z???

They're just so Pythagorean...  soooo, you know, Bronze Age-ish...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Woolsey, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Who is foo & what is bar?
> 
> 
> MC,
>  
> Whatever happened to good ole' x, y and z???
>  
> Anywho, I am quite certain of the military origin of "FUBAR" 
> and "SNAFU", but leave it to softwarians to expropriate the 
> former term, change the spelling to FOOBAR, then divide it 
> into the now legendary FOO and BAR.  Who knows, maybe Grace 
> Hopper  (of USN, FORTRAN, and ENIAC fame) first forked FOOBAR 
> into FOO | BAR???
>  
> Cheers,
> Fred Woolsey
> 
>       -----Original Message----- 
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 7:10 PM 
>       To: Woolsey, Fred 
>       Cc: 
>       Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Who is foo & what is bar?
>       
>       
> 
> 
>       I think a few of you are slightly off (or perhaps I am 
> about to be).  I
>       learned a while back that 'foo' and 'bar' are not just terms in
>       programming, but in general science where variables are 
> concerned.
>       
>       Suppose, for example, you are trying to define this 
> awesome formula for
>       perpetual motion, and in your research you have to 
> explain a function to
>       your colleagues.  In order to keep the level of 
> confusion low, you would
>       use the terms 'foo' and 'bar' to illustrate instances, 
> variables,
>       etcetera, and your audience would also understand that 
> you are referring
>       to such instances in a hypothetical manner, rather than 
> realistically.
>       
>       In other words, if you mention 'foo' and 'bar' in a 
> conversation, your
>       listener would assume a hypothetical instance of 
> whatever you subject
>       may be.
>       
>       Or something to that effect...
>       
>       
>       Matthew Clark
>       Divergent Systems Incorporated
>       
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Woolsey, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:59 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Who is foo & what is bar?
>       
>       I'm pretty certain it is one of those brilliant, 
> sarcastic military
>       acronymns like SNAFU (situation normal, all f@#$%d up), 
> as alluded to by
>       Mikey- however, I believe the correct meaning is f@#$%d 
> up beyond all
>       repair.  Witness the following hypothetical exchanges:
>       
>       "So soldier, what's the sitrep?"
>       "SNAFU, sir..."
>       
>       and
>       
>       "How bad is it, soldier?"
>       "Well sir, I'm afraid it's FUBAR..."
>       
>       Phonetically, FUBAR was simplified to FOOBAR, which 
> allowed it to be
>       parsed into FOO and BAR by standard software :-{)>
>       
>       Cheers,
>       Fred Woolsey
>       
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Chris Kranz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Tue 1/21/2003 8:35 AM
>               To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Cc:
>               Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Who is foo & what is bar?
>              
>              
>       
>               Hehe!!!
>              
>               It's one of those classic terms that spans 
> across many languages
>       and
>               dates back quite a long time. Whenever I pickup 
> a programming
>       book,
>               somewhere in there, you'll find the infamous 
> foo and bar...
>              
>               chris kranz
>               fatcuban.com
>              
>              
>               -----Original Message-----
>               From: Mikey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:32 PM
>               To: Uttam; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               Subject: RE: [PHP-WIN] Who is foo & what is bar?
>              
>               Just my opinion, but I think it comes from the 
> acronym FUBAR -
>       f@cked up
>               beyond all recognition...
>              
>               Mikey
>              
>               > -----Original Message-----
>               > From: Uttam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>               > Sent: 21 January 2003 13:29
>               > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>               > Subject: [PHP-WIN] Who is foo & what is bar?
>               >
>               >
>               > In many code examples in PHP documention (& 
> others also), I
>       have seen
>               > authors referring to variables 'foo' & 'bar', 
> but I have yet
>       not
>               > discovered
>               > the origin of these names.  I am sure there 
> must be dozens of
>       others
>               who
>               > have the curiosity to find how the use of 
> these names started.
>               >
>               > Can anyone quench the curiosities please?
>               >
>               > regards,
>               >
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