@afan:
OK, ... and a little advice from me: try to find a book
or get a semester (same in EN??) in algorithmic.
For your problem (working with strings): perhaps you get
a look in the book: Thinking in Regular Expressions from
o'reilly.
@all newbies:
... and of most: Learning by doing. When I have a problem,
I consult the manuals, look through existing classes, make
a 'creative circle' with myself, brainstorming of different
resolutions to my problem. If there's still no res. I look
through the 'archives' of newsgroups, because many of the
questions are mentioned before.
If there's still no light at the end of the tunnel, I will
ask here in the group *thinkthinkthink*, but I think that
this never happened before (or I can't remember =8).
Please don't forget that nearly all of the people answering
here are at the office working and don't have too much time
to answer simple or not clearly specified questions. But new-
bies get answers, too, if they clearly specified their
problem and ask nice.
Greetinx,
Mike
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Meagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:46 AM
> To: Svensson, B.A.T. ; afan; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [PHP-WIN] extracting email addresses
>
>
> > Most normal intelligent persons without any programming
> skills are able
> > to put together a workable program if they only have a
> manual, because
> > humans are creative beings. But then manage to make a
> program that works
> > for a task doesn't mean that these guy can do programming!
> These fellows
> > will usually construct programs that a experience
> programmer would, to
> > put it nicely, call "unusual constructions". Probably these
> program will
> > suffer from bad degrees of coupling and cohesion (aka:
> spaghetti programs
> > in popular terms).
>
> This seems a bit harsh. Afan is trying to learn PHP and is
> asking some
> questions that seem uninformed. In my opinion, he is
> providing us with
> some valuable insights into the mental roadblocks that some
> newcomers find
> in trying to learn PHP. I hope he is not turned off by your comments.
> Hang in there Afan.
>
> > D.S. Your description above about the file with e-mail
> address is still
> > not sufficient enough for a programmer to understand how
> (s)he should
> > employ an algorithm to extract e-mail addresses from it. You suffer
> > from the "general-customer-ignorance-problem", where the customer
> > believes that programmers are mind reader and can extract all the
> > details from a transcendental spiritual plane... Well, let me tell
> > you this: programming haven't reached that state - yet. :) D.S.
>
> Actually, most customers don't have enought savvy to provide
> requirements.
> There is an element of mind reading involved. A better term is
> sense-making. I suspect that "good" developers can "read
> minds" based on
> pattern completion arising from experience in similiar situations.
> Personally, I believe in alot of mind reading and prototype
> development to
> confirm that my mind reading is on track.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Meagher
>
>
>
>
>
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