Curt Zirzow wrote:
* Thus wrote John Nichel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Not as cut and dry as that. By design, Linux IS more secure. Great deal of that security lies in the fact that it IS a true multi-user system (like just about every other non-MS OS out there), with a real permission / user / group mindset.


There is a lot lacking in the permission/user/group in *nix. Just
because it works hardly makes it right. Try managing 20 servers
with 100 users within 30 separate groups across a network. NT has
far more flexible and manageable permissions mindset.

Hell, my last place of employment, we surpassed that number of servers just with our webservers alone (24). Managed 6000+ users at 3 different locations in Phoenix, 1 location in Canada, 1 in the U.K., and 1 in Germany....all in all, comprising of more than 100 groups. No Windows servers. Our system administration team? 5 guys. Network administration team? Another 7 people. Compare that to the Desktop support team for all the Windows based workstations....60+ people.


We can argue semantics all day long, but when the sun sets, MS OS' will still be near, if not at the bottom of all OS' in terms of security. And it will stay there as long as script kiddies can write crap which allows them Admin access to Windows on a daily basis.

But that's just my 2 cents (for which I will almost certainly earn the title
of troll).

Not a troll, just misinformed.


hmm, i guess he didn't snag you with his troll bate :)

But I think you missed his point.  virus/trojans/worms do exist for
*nix and linux, the reason why you don't see them widespread is the
literacy of the user base is much higher than you find on most
windows machines. And, not to mention, the linux virus's come with
GNU uninstallers :)

If and when linux becomes as 'mainstream' as windows, you will find
more virus's written for linux and more linux computers getting
infected with them.

Possibly, but not likely, for two reasons. One, script kiddies are lost in the *nix world, and all their VB tools won't help them one bit. Two, most people capable of writing viri for Linux wouldn't out of loyality (love, devotion, obsession, etc).


Thats why *BSD is better, it doesn't demand the attention linux
does :)

I do like the devil slightly better than the penguin as a mascot.


hm.. is this a bad time to mention vi?

vi rocks!! Okay, maybe it doesn't rock all the time, but when I'm at a remote location, without access to some sort of SFTP client, it rocks. :)


cheers,
Curt

Course, we're way off topic, so I'm going to close my mouth now in hope that the PHP gods don't blast me.


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