Jason, you are a sad sad man. The point I was simply trying to make was that YOU do not have to do ANYTHING. Don't search google, don't spend any time on it at all, don't even email.
There are plenty of people here that are willing to help - if you are not - piss off. Not everyone has your complete knowledge and massive experience and extreme brainpower, and we are not all able to utilize our pitiful intellects to your level and utilize all the useful resources that google has to offer. As for this list being the first resort, why not? Who are you to determine whether this list is a first, last or any other kind of resource? Do you own it, do you manage or moderate it in any way? If so, then perhaps you should write an FAQ that is presented with the welcome to the list email that states all the obvious answers, if not, then leave the moderation to those who's job it is. This is a list containing noobs, vets and everything inbetween. You have to be considerate to all levels. You sir, are not. You are arrogant (your problem not mine), rude (your problem not mine), and overall just not a nice person on this list. If you are different in real life, cool, by try to use some restraint on the list why don't you! That is all, back to our regular programming :) On 5/29/03 10:28 AM, "Jason Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 29 May 2003 21:49, Mike Morton wrote: >> I have to get this off my chest, and I tried to send it directly to Jason >> off list, but the email bounces back. Why? Probably because he gets a lot >> of these emails. > > Because I don't like spam. > >> Why do you bother to answer on the php list at all? 90% of the messages >> from you are 'search google' > > Probably because 90% of the questions on the list can be answered by searching > google? > >> if you do not have constructive info to >> offer, why bother to answer at all. > > So constructive info would be for ME to search google and present the results > neatly in my reply? Somehow I don't think so. > >> I am directing this to you because the >> list does not need to see my crap about it, but it just makes me sick to >> see you over and over putting people down who are just asking for help. > > Non-specific questions get non-specific answers. > > If the OP wanted a better answer the question asked should have been something > like: > > I'm looking for a script to do blahblah, I searched on google/etc and found A, > B and C. However I need features X, Y and Z. > > Because: > > 1) We know the OP has done some homework > 2) We know which packages the OP has already looked at and thus would not > recommend them > 3) We know what specific features the OP would like and thus can make an > informed recommendation > >> And no, 'search google' is not a good answer - at the best of times it is >> tough to wade through all the crap that google spits at you, > > So a good answer would be for ME to search google and present the results > neatly in my reply? Somehow I don't think so. > >> at the worst >> of times, most people do not even know what to search for to narrow it >> down! > > Well in this particular case "php netbilling" would have been a good start. > Not exactly rocket science. > >> Never mind searching the list archive - half the time all I get back >> is your emails saying 'search google'! > > Probably it's because a lot of people look to the list as a first resort > instead of consulting the manual, the archives and google. Thus they keep > asking the same questions over and over again. > >> Geeze, look what you have made me do, get pissed of and waste my time >> flaming you. What a waste of our time. > > Well if you have nothing better to do then maybe you should search google try > out all the links then present an executive summary for our friend the OP so > that he can save himself some time. -- Cheers Mike Morton **************************************************** * * Tel: 905-465-1263 * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * **************************************************** "Indeed, it would not be an exaggeration to describe the history of the computer industry for the past decade as a massive effort to keep up with Apple." - Byte Magazine Given infinite time, 100 monkeys could type out the complete works of Shakespeare. Win 98 source code? Eight monkeys, five minutes. -- NullGrey -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php