> On 12 Dec 2020, at 11:05, Tim Mackinnon <tim@testit.works> wrote: > > Just to chip in here - the work demonstrated on Pharo development is > inspirational. Rather than throwing everything away, it shows the alternative > - incrementally improving a running platform - and practicing what we preach > in industry by refactoring a large elderly code base bit by bit - it's > remarkable. > > While its true we don’t always immediately get things fixed that we might > personally want, but then again we are relying on the free personal time of > others. But collectively, the most important things do get fixed/improved, > and if there is something that really bothers you, then the over arching > lesson is that you have to roll up your sleaves and try and fix it yourself > and in showing willingness you normally find that others will help you. > > So Steph et al, I am glad that you love this platform (and have for many > years), but more startlingly - i heard you all talk about a vision of > improvements back in Lugano many years ago… and gosh we are seeing those > improvements roll out year after year. Even more - we are slowly getting the > kind of development/experiment workbench platform that good developers should > have. Its being invented under our eyes, and that is exciting.
:) > So I hope you dont feel dispondent - I think history viewed over a longer > period will actually show a more positive picture. I’m pretty sure it will :) Because we know where we want to go and this is nice :) Thanks a lot tim. And we will continue :) > > Tim > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2020, at 9:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> It depends how old. >> We cannot do magic. >> In particular, if more people would help fixing simple things in Pharo we >> would then have the time for more boring and challenging issues. >> Because in my personal case, I’m not paid to develop and lead Pharo dev. >> My own carrer and CV do not depend on Pharo and in fact I could publish much >> more >> and look much smarter without it. >> >> S. >> >> >> >>> But if it doesn't work on older machines (if that is the case) then that's >>> still a bug, isn't it? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html >>> <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / >> http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> >> 03 59 35 87 52 >> Assistant: Aurore Dalle >> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >> S. Ducasse - Inria >> 40, avenue Halley, >> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >> France -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
