+1. Also, there can be different UIs that one might want to choose from (for example, Bloc and Morphic) without having both loaded at the same time.
Cheers, Doru > On Aug 31, 2017, at 8:20 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We are talking about **Pharo Core** and we will reduce it even more. > Then you can load the UI. > And no UI is not the very essence of Smalltalk. > You can connect remotely to a live kernel and program it and this is > still a live system. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >> for me Pharo and GUI go hand in hand, I cannot imagine Pharo without GUI. I >> also despise the command line. Plus once you remove the GUI you kill the >> very essence of Smalltalk. >> >> But if that is what you(you as all people who support this) like and need, >> that's your choice and I respect that. >> >> Even back in the 80s when almost everything was command lines , I was >> drooling over Amiga's 500 beautiful coloured GUIs. It started my fascination >> with computer graphics and later 3d graphics and sound. >> >> So me and the GUI are very old friends and we go hand in hand :) >> >> Of course I understand if we want to go super minimal the GUI has to go >> together with many other things that make Pharo what it is. But I dont care >> for such extremes. I just wanted to reduce the fat. >> >> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:24 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several >>> intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image >>> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, >>> BaselineOfBasicTools...) >>> >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I >>>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to >>>>> try to open it this way. >>>>> >>>>> -- Pavel >>>>> >>>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra >>>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing >>>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to >>>>>> use force quit to make it close >>>>>> >>>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit, >>>>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek >>>>>> <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download >>>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under name >>>>>>> Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Pavel >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar."
