We are talking about **Pharo Core** and we will reduce it even more. Then you can load the UI. And no UI is not the very essence of Smalltalk. You can connect remotely to a live kernel and program it and this is still a live system.
On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > for me Pharo and GUI go hand in hand, I cannot imagine Pharo without GUI. I > also despise the command line. Plus once you remove the GUI you kill the > very essence of Smalltalk. > > But if that is what you(you as all people who support this) like and need, > that's your choice and I respect that. > > Even back in the 80s when almost everything was command lines , I was > drooling over Amiga's 500 beautiful coloured GUIs. It started my fascination > with computer graphics and later 3d graphics and sound. > > So me and the GUI are very old friends and we go hand in hand :) > > Of course I understand if we want to go super minimal the GUI has to go > together with many other things that make Pharo what it is. But I dont care > for such extremes. I just wanted to reduce the fat. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:24 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> What do you expect from such minimal image? Because we can produce several >> intermediate steps on the way to the standard full Pharo image >> (BaselineOfMorphicCore, BaselineOfMorphic, BaselineOfUI, >> BaselineOfBasicTools...) >> >> -- Pavel >> >> 2017-08-28 13:17 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>> >>> oh , then its not what I am thinking as minimal image. Pity, oh well , I >>> will wait for bootstrap to mature then :) >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:09 PM Pavel Krivanek <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The minimal image is headless image without any GUI. It is useless to >>>> try to open it this way. >>>> >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> 2017-08-28 13:03 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>> hmm does not work for me, it open the icon of pharo on macos sierra >>>>> dock and it stays there doing nothing >>>>> right clicking on it and choosing quit does nothing, so I am have to >>>>> use force quit to make it close >>>>> >>>>> I have downloaded pharo 6.1 from the website, default download, 32 bit, >>>>> minimal 32 bit image. I drag and drop image on top of pharo. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:29 AM Pavel Krivanek >>>>> <pavel.kriva...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 2017-08-26 19:31 GMT+02:00 Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember that the website used to link to a minimal image download >>>>>>> but it does not seem there is one anymore >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is still minimal image maintained ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> yes, as part of the bootstrap process >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there ways to make a image minimal ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> it is created in bootstrap/scripts/build.sh under name >>>>>> Pharo7.0-metacello-* and saved on files.pharo.org as >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-32.zip or >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/image/70/latest-minimal-64.zip >>>>>> >>>>>> So you do not need to do it by yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> >> >
