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On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > It seems that my initial message generated a misunderstanding. > > My original blog post was meant to communicate two things: > 1. That the known Bloc project has received a new feature that the > community raised as a problem (i.e., host & backend). > 2. Address the other concern that the community raised: how to sustain the > Bloc development in terms of engineering effort. This is why we announced > the financial support for the work of Alex that is valid from this point on. > > The post was certainly not intended to overlook the people that > contributed to the overall project. I apologize if it looked like this. > > To clarify the historical perspective, we now added an explicit history > page on the official project page: > https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Bloc/blob/master/HISTORY.md > > I also changed the blog post to more clearly communicate the intent: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/ > > I hope this addresses the concerns. I am really excited that Alain joined > and that we can get even more traction around Bloc. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On May 12, 2017, at 7:56 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > BTW for an historical perspective > > > > RMoD me and igor were also involved far less than the effort of alain > but as he mentioned it we collaborated on it. I spent time on documenting > several versions and I stopped disgusted to see the total lack of attention > for comments. > > Then Rmod paid nearly a year of effort on Athens, SDL20 support, a year > on TxText. I find really strange that we are not even mentioned in any > support. > > > > Stef > > > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Stephane Ducasse < > stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Doru can you change the humane assessment blog post? > > > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Indeed, this is wonderful news that you will rejoin your baby project :). > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > On May 11, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.ber...@me.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Alain! > > > > > > Thanks for the mail (even if the historial part has always been pretty > clear to me). > > > We miss you! Be back soon! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Alexandre > > > -- > > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > >> On May 11, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev < > pharo-...@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> From: Alain Plantec <alain.plan...@yahoo.com> > > >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic > > >> Date: May 11, 2017 at 12:36:36 PM GMT-3 > > >> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-...@lists.pharo.org> > > >> Cc: Alain Plantec <alain.plan...@yahoo.com>, Moose-related > development <moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch>, Any question about pharo is > welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > > >> > > >> > > >> Hello Doru, all, > > >> > > >> I’m really happy to see Bloc progresses. > > >> Even I’m not active since more than one year, Bloc is still an > important project for me. > > >> > > >> but let me complete this short historical presentation a little bit. > > >> > > >> Bloc is a project that I initiated in 2013 in collaboration with RMOD > following experiments made around the ROME project. > > >> The idea was to completely revisit the 2D framework of Pharo to > address Morphic limits. > > >> Following an invitation of the Software Composition Group (thanks to > Oscar Nierstrasz and to Doru here), > > >> I presented the first version of Bloc at Bern (March, 2015), then > Doru and Aliaksel joined the project. > > >> One year ago, during his PhD at Brest, Glenn Cavarle produced a new > version of the Bloc infrastructure that is now the > > >> one used together with the layouting system that was implemented by > Aliaksel. > > >> > > >> Please, do not use the humane assessment web site but the github > project one instead. > > >> > > >> I will restart working on Bloc/Brick soon in the context of a project > that we recently signed with the Thales company. > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Cheers > > >> > > >> Alain > > >> > > >> > > >>> On 8 mai 2017, at 23:00, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex > extended Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as > a backend. > > >>> > > >>> Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an > example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community > raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to > Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical > library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM > plugin. > > >>> > > >>> <bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png> > > >>> > > >>> I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host > was possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole > implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an > amazing job. > > >>> > > >>> You can find a bit more details about Bloc here: > > >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/ > > >>> > > >>> Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering > effort required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to > announce that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the > graphical stack for Pharo. > > >>> > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> Doru > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> www.tudorgirba.com > > >>> www.feenk.com > > >>> > > >>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch > > > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > www.feenk.com > > > > "Yesterday is a fact. > > Tomorrow is a possibility. > > Today is a challenge." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Presenting is storytelling." > > >
