BTW for an historical perspective

RMoD me and igor were also involved far less than the effort of alain but
as he mentioned it we collaborated on it. I spent time on documenting
several versions and I stopped disgusted to see the total lack of attention
for comments.
Then Rmod paid nearly a year of effort on Athens, SDL20 support, a year on
TxText. I find really strange that we are not even mentioned in any support.

Stef


On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.s...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Doru can you change the humane assessment blog post?
>
>
> On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Indeed, this is wonderful news that you will rejoin your baby project :).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> > On May 11, 2017, at 6:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.ber...@me.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Alain!
>> >
>> > Thanks for the mail (even if the historial part has always been pretty
>> clear to me).
>> > We miss you! Be back soon!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Alexandre
>> > --
>> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> > Alexandre Bergel  http://www.bergel.eu
>> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 11, 2017, at 12:36 PM, Alain Plantec via Pharo-dev <
>> pharo-...@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Alain Plantec <alain.plan...@yahoo.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic
>> >> Date: May 11, 2017 at 12:36:36 PM GMT-3
>> >> To: Pharo Development List <pharo-...@lists.pharo.org>
>> >> Cc: Alain Plantec <alain.plan...@yahoo.com>, Moose-related
>> development <moose-...@list.inf.unibe.ch>, Any question about pharo is
>> welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hello Doru, all,
>> >>
>> >> I’m really happy to see Bloc progresses.
>> >> Even I’m not active since more than one year, Bloc is still an
>> important project for me.
>> >>
>> >> but let me complete this short historical presentation a little bit.
>> >>
>> >> Bloc is a project that I initiated in 2013 in collaboration with RMOD
>> following experiments made around the ROME project.
>> >> The idea was to completely revisit the 2D framework of Pharo to
>> address Morphic limits.
>> >> Following an invitation of the Software Composition Group (thanks to
>> Oscar Nierstrasz and to Doru here),
>> >> I presented the first version of Bloc at Bern (March, 2015), then Doru
>> and Aliaksel joined the project.
>> >> One year ago, during his PhD at Brest, Glenn Cavarle produced a new
>> version of the Bloc infrastructure that is now the
>> >> one used together with the layouting system that was implemented by
>> Aliaksel.
>> >>
>> >> Please, do not use the humane assessment web site but the github
>> project one instead.
>> >>
>> >> I will restart working on Bloc/Brick soon in the context of a project
>> that we recently signed with the Thales company.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Cheers
>> >>
>> >> Alain
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 8 mai 2017, at 23:00, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex
>> extended Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as
>> a backend.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an
>> example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community
>> raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to
>> Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical
>> library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM
>> plugin.
>> >>>
>> >>> <bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png>
>> >>>
>> >>> I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was
>> possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole
>> implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an
>> amazing job.
>> >>>
>> >>> You can find a bit more details about Bloc here:
>> >>> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/
>> >>>
>> >>> Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering
>> effort required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to
>> announce that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the
>> graphical stack for Pharo.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Doru
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> www.tudorgirba.com
>> >>> www.feenk.com
>> >>>
>> >>> "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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>>
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>>  Tomorrow is a possibility.
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