> On 19 Oct 2016, at 22:55, Dale Henrichs <dale.henri...@gemtalksystems.com> > wrote: > > Michal, > > This sounds quite exciting ... I was wondering how you were getting on with > Tugrik+Mongo+Voyage and now I know :) > > I would be very interested in helping you in any way that I can, just let me > know. >
yes, me too :) Esteban > Dale > > On 10/19/2016 01:01 PM, Michal Balda wrote: >> Hi, >> the short answer is: not yet. >> >> The back story is: We have been experimenting with GemStone and Tugrik at >> work. While Tugrik appears to work very well (even though it is new and not >> yet finished), I found the overall architecture (Tugrik+Mongo+Voyage) a bit >> complicated. Tugrik is meant to be a replacement for Voyage-Mongo but >> actually uses parts of its implementation and behavior. I understand that it >> does so to mimic Voyage-Mongo so that switching from Mongo to GemStone is >> relatively painless. That does not fit our use case though - we don't need a >> replacement for Mongo since we haven't used it in the first place. We would >> also like to have something that we could possibly maintain ourselves, >> should the priorities of Esteban or Dale change in a few years (I don't want >> this to sound negative, I am sure they would not drop the support just >> because they want to, but I understand they are very busy and for us it is a >> certain risk we would like to mitigate). >> >> While playing with Tugrik I came up with a few ideas so I started a clean >> Pharo image with the following task in mind: find a way of getting objects >> from Pharo to GemStone and back, as simply as possible, without any >> unnecessary dependencies. In other words, I wanted to see if I could create >> a simpler Pharo-to-GemStone persistence solution than the existing >> Tugrik+Mongo+Voyage stack. As of now it's still in an early phase but I >> already have something that could work. For the meetup in Zürich I want to >> have something to show (a small demo), or, if I run into any conceptual >> issues, to have a topic for discussion if anyone's interested. >> >> I won't release it publicly until I am sure it works well. But I can >> guarantee you that if anything exciting does emerge, this mailing list will >> learn about it. It will definitely not be exclusive for the people who >> attend the meetup. I just want to use the opportunity of the meetup to get >> early feedback and/or input, maybe it will trigger a discussion about >> important issues that I haven't thought about yet. I am not at all a >> GemStone expert so the possibility is there. >> >> >> Michal >> >> >> >> On 18.10.2016 14:38, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would love to be in Zurich, but I obviously can't :( >>> So... is there a way to get some more info about that "Gemstone-based >>> persistence framework for Pharo"? And who is Michal? Last name? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/> >> >