On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Michal Balda <li...@michalbalda.cz> wrote:

> Hi,
> the short answer is: not yet.
>
> The back story is: We have been experimenting with GemStone and Tugrik at
> work. While Tugrik appears to work very well (even though it is new and not
> yet finished), I found the overall architecture (Tugrik+Mongo+Voyage) a bit
> complicated. Tugrik is meant to be a replacement for Voyage-Mongo but
> actually uses parts of its implementation and behavior. I understand that
> it does so to mimic Voyage-Mongo so that switching from Mongo to GemStone
> is relatively painless. That does not fit our use case though - we don't
> need a replacement for Mongo since we haven't used it in the first place.
> We would also like to have something that we could possibly maintain
> ourselves, should the priorities of Esteban or Dale change in a few years
> (I don't want this to sound negative, I am sure they would not drop the
> support just because they want to, but I understand they are very busy and
> for us it is a certain risk we would like to mitigate).
>
> While playing with Tugrik I came up with a few ideas so I started a clean
> Pharo image with the following task in mind: find a way of getting objects
> from Pharo to GemStone and back, as simply as possible, without any
> unnecessary dependencies. In other words, I wanted to see if I could create
> a simpler Pharo-to-GemStone persistence solution than the existing
> Tugrik+Mongo+Voyage stack. As of now it's still in an early phase but I
> already have something that could work. For the meetup in Zürich I want to
> have something to show (a small demo), or, if I run into any conceptual
> issues, to have a topic for discussion if anyone's interested.
>
> I won't release it publicly until I am sure it works well. But I can
> guarantee you that if anything exciting does emerge, this mailing list will
> learn about it. It will definitely not be exclusive for the people who
> attend the meetup. I just want to use the opportunity of the meetup to get
> early feedback and/or input, maybe it will trigger a discussion about
> important issues that I haven't thought about yet. I am not at all a
> GemStone expert so the possibility is there.
>
>
>
Hi,

OK, I understand. Thanks for the explanation.

BTW, for your implementation, do you use ServerBlocks [1] ? It may be handy
otherwise.

Best regards,



[1 ]
https://github.com/GsDevKit/GsDevKit_home/blob/master/docs/articles/gsDevKitServerBlocks.md




> Michal
>
>
>
> On 18.10.2016 14:38, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would love to be in Zurich, but I obviously can't :(
> So... is there a way to get some more info about that "Gemstone-based
> persistence framework for Pharo"? And who is Michal? Last name?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> --
> Mariano
> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
>
>
>


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