Can someone please confirm that there exists some VM that can run Pharo 4 (3) images on macOS Sierra ?
> On 07 Oct 2016, at 20:33, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It works if you download it from terminal , download page has the > instructions > > Make sure you download alpha image latest VM > > On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 at 20:25, Hari Balaraman <hari.balara...@icloud.com> wrote: > Hi All, > Fyi- the Pharo default collection of downloaded files for MacOS does not work > (starts up with blank screen and remains as such) on MacOS Sierra. On another > Mac with the previous OS (El Capitan) the default download works. > Kind regards, > Hari > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:06 PM, pharo-users-requ...@lists.pharo.org wrote: > > > > Send Pharo-users mailing list submissions to > > pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > pharo-users-requ...@lists.pharo.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > pharo-users-ow...@lists.pharo.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Pharo-users digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image > > file (Andreas Sunardi) > > 2. Re: Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image > > file (Andreas Sunardi) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:01:51 -0700 > > From: Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> > > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter > > cannot read image file > > Message-ID: > > <CAO4d=z3xxyagh8e15zox8nh-ykq0mp94kz3z-n_0rmgmnzo...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > That's it! But it isn't as simple as that Here's what I did. I have pharo5 > > directory, unzipped from the Pharo download page (GNU/Linux w. libc < > > 2.15). I then took the VM Bernardo pointed me to and copy that VM into my > > pharo5/bin. > > > > That Pharo download (GNU/Linux w. libc <2.15) has shared/Pharo5.0.image > > along with shared/PharoV40.sources > > > > Next I grabbed the PharoV50.sources as Clement instructed. First I tried to > > put it in shared/, because that's where PharoV40.sources is, even tough > > Clement said to put it in the same folder as the VM. > > > > Then I tried to run it, calling pharo binary or the wrapper. Here's what I > > found: > > 1. pharo keeps looking for PharoV40.sources, looking in bin/ first (the VM > > directory) and next in shared/ > > > > 2. If the source file is in shared/, making PharoV40.sources a sym link to > > PharoV50.sources, still gives me the same error. > > > > 3. However, if the source files is in bin/, making PharoV40.sources a sym > > link to PharoV50.sources does not give me the error. Success! > > > > 4. For additional experiment, I took Pharo5.0.image from Windows download, > > and put it in shared/ (along with the changes file). It picks up > > PharoV50.sources in either bin/ or shared/. I removed PharoV40.sources in > > both places and still works fine. > > > > 5. I remove PharoV50.sources in bin/ and shared/, so now I don't have any > > sources file. Using Pharo5.0.image from Windows, I got notification pharo > > can't find PharoV50.sources file, yet, I don't get that > > MessageNotUnderstood error. > > > > > > I think the image version is different in Windows and Linux download. The > > image from Windows download starts with a welcome window. The image from > > Linux download doesn't. I don't know how to check the image version. > > > > I can now run pharo5 and I'm happy. The Linux download needs updated VM and > > image, I think. > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Hello > >> > >> What you describe (arg1 instead of string) means the source file is not > >> present. Sources are required for some FFI calls. Take the PharoV50.sources > >> file (you can find it here http://files.pharo.org/sources/) and put it in > >> the same folder as your VM. It should solve the problem. > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Clement > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having. > >>> > >>> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from > >>> Pharo download page. This is a good sign. > >>> > >>> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with > >>> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from > >>> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference > >>> > >>> It boils down to > >>> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME' > >>> > >>> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is > >>> #( String getenv (String string) ) > >>> > >>> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1', > >>> instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an > >>> IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find > >>> any, because what is stored is 'arg1'. > >>> > >>> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not > >>> being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from > >>> here. > >>> > >>> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help. > >>> > >>> Cheers! > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > >>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hold on, > >>>> > >>>> There's also this issue > >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-de > >>>> bian-old-libc > >>>> > >>>> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build > >>>> > >>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/ > >>>> > >>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur > >>>> -swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip > >>>> > >>>> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i > >>>> don't use it anymore because im in jessie. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have > >>>>> older glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit > >>>>> on > >>>>> my 64 bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > >>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> this > >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip > >>>>>> > >>>>>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for reporting the problem. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a > >>>>>>> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM > >>>>>>> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> old format. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo > >>>>>>> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not > >>>>>>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> solve that problem. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Meantime.... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip): > >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip): > >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if > >>>>>>> you try. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Clement > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > >>>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> i already submitted a similar issue > >>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver > >>>>>>>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> check it and see if it is the same > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < > >>>>>>>>> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with > >>>>>>>>> Windows > >>>>>>>>> version): > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> $ pharo > >>>>>>>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). > >>>>>>>>> Press CR to quit... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the > >>>>>>>>> web. I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a > >>>>>>>>> known issue? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your > >>>>>>>>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Andreas S > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Bernardo E.C. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Bernardo E.C. > >>>> > >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/attachments/20161007/892651ec/attachment-0001.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:06:05 -0700 > > From: Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> > > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter > > cannot read image file > > Message-ID: > > <CAO4d=Z3ORte-ro63YwZ92db1z+tNT=gwgdwfi5dcyha3mcr...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hi Stef, > > > > Can you explain a little bit about what this 'How to' is? Just now I'm able > > to finally run pharo5 on my CentOS with glibc version < 2.15 and I wrote my > > finding in my other reply. > > > > Are you referring to how to put these things together to finally able to > > run pharo? Or are you referring to my digging through the error? > > > > > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: > >> > >> Hi andreas > >> > >> could you write a little how to so that we can put it on the web site? > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> Le 7/10/16 ? 06:20, Andreas Sunardi a ?crit : > >> > >> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having. > >> > >> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from > >> Pharo download page. This is a good sign. > >> > >> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with > >> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from > >> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference > >> > >> It boils down to > >> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME' > >> > >> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is > >> #( String getenv (String string) ) > >> > >> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1', > >> instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an > >> IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find > >> any, because what is stored is 'arg1'. > >> > >> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not > >> being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from > >> here. > >> > >> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help. > >> > >> Cheers! > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > >> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hold on, > >>> > >>> There's also this issue > >>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-debian-old-libc > >>> > >>> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build > >>> > >>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/ > >>> > >>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur > >>> -swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip > >>> > >>> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i > >>> don't use it anymore because im in jessie. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older > >>>> glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my > >>>> 64 > >>>> bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do. > >>>> > >>>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > >>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> this > >>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip > >>>>> > >>>>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks for reporting the problem. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a > >>>>>> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM > >>>>>> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> old format. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo > >>>>>> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not > >>>>>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying > >>>>>> to > >>>>>> solve that problem. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Meantime.... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip): > >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip): > >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if > >>>>>> you try. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks & Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Clement > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < > >>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> i already submitted a similar issue > >>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver > >>>>>>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> check it and see if it is the same > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < > >>>>>>>> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows > >>>>>>>> version): > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> $ pharo > >>>>>>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). > >>>>>>>> Press CR to quit... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the > >>>>>>>> web. I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known > >>>>>>>> issue? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your > >>>>>>>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Andreas S > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Bernardo E.C. > >>>>> > >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Bernardo E.C. > >>> > >>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/attachments/20161007/72459f1f/attachment.html> > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-users mailing list > > Pharo-users@lists.pharo.org > > http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Pharo-users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 29 > > ******************************************* >
