Hi hair, This is a known problem, which hopefully, will be fixed soon
Alexandre > On Oct 7, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Hari Balaraman <hari.balara...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > Fyi- the Pharo default collection of downloaded files for MacOS does not work > (starts up with blank screen and remains as such) on MacOS Sierra. On another > Mac with the previous OS (El Capitan) the default download works. > Kind regards, > Hari > > > > >> On Oct 7, 2016, at 1:06 PM, pharo-users-requ...@lists.pharo.org wrote: >> >> Send Pharo-users mailing list submissions to >> pharo-users@lists.pharo.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> pharo-users-requ...@lists.pharo.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> pharo-users-ow...@lists.pharo.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Pharo-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image >> file (Andreas Sunardi) >> 2. Re: Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter cannot read image >> file (Andreas Sunardi) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:01:51 -0700 >> From: Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter >> cannot read image file >> Message-ID: >> <CAO4d=z3xxyagh8e15zox8nh-ykq0mp94kz3z-n_0rmgmnzo...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> That's it! But it isn't as simple as that Here's what I did. I have pharo5 >> directory, unzipped from the Pharo download page (GNU/Linux w. libc < >> 2.15). I then took the VM Bernardo pointed me to and copy that VM into my >> pharo5/bin. >> >> That Pharo download (GNU/Linux w. libc <2.15) has shared/Pharo5.0.image >> along with shared/PharoV40.sources >> >> Next I grabbed the PharoV50.sources as Clement instructed. First I tried to >> put it in shared/, because that's where PharoV40.sources is, even tough >> Clement said to put it in the same folder as the VM. >> >> Then I tried to run it, calling pharo binary or the wrapper. Here's what I >> found: >> 1. pharo keeps looking for PharoV40.sources, looking in bin/ first (the VM >> directory) and next in shared/ >> >> 2. If the source file is in shared/, making PharoV40.sources a sym link to >> PharoV50.sources, still gives me the same error. >> >> 3. However, if the source files is in bin/, making PharoV40.sources a sym >> link to PharoV50.sources does not give me the error. Success! >> >> 4. For additional experiment, I took Pharo5.0.image from Windows download, >> and put it in shared/ (along with the changes file). It picks up >> PharoV50.sources in either bin/ or shared/. I removed PharoV40.sources in >> both places and still works fine. >> >> 5. I remove PharoV50.sources in bin/ and shared/, so now I don't have any >> sources file. Using Pharo5.0.image from Windows, I got notification pharo >> can't find PharoV50.sources file, yet, I don't get that >> MessageNotUnderstood error. >> >> >> I think the image version is different in Windows and Linux download. The >> image from Windows download starts with a welcome window. The image from >> Linux download doesn't. I don't know how to check the image version. >> >> I can now run pharo5 and I'm happy. The Linux download needs updated VM and >> image, I think. >> >> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> What you describe (arg1 instead of string) means the source file is not >>> present. Sources are required for some FFI calls. Take the PharoV50.sources >>> file (you can find it here http://files.pharo.org/sources/) and put it in >>> the same folder as your VM. It should solve the problem. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Clement >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having. >>>> >>>> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from >>>> Pharo download page. This is a good sign. >>>> >>>> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with >>>> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from >>>> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference >>>> >>>> It boils down to >>>> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME' >>>> >>>> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is >>>> #( String getenv (String string) ) >>>> >>>> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1', >>>> instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an >>>> IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find >>>> any, because what is stored is 'arg1'. >>>> >>>> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not >>>> being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from >>>> here. >>>> >>>> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help. >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hold on, >>>>> >>>>> There's also this issue >>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-de >>>>> bian-old-libc >>>>> >>>>> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build >>>>> >>>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/ >>>>> >>>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur >>>>> -swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip >>>>> >>>>> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i >>>>> don't use it anymore because im in jessie. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have >>>>>> older glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit >>>>>> on >>>>>> my 64 bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for reporting the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a >>>>>>>> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM >>>>>>>> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> old format. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo >>>>>>>> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not >>>>>>>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> solve that problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Meantime.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip): >>>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip): >>>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if >>>>>>>> you try. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i already submitted a similar issue >>>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver >>>>>>>>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> check it and see if it is the same >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < >>>>>>>>>> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows >>>>>>>>>> version): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ pharo >>>>>>>>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). >>>>>>>>>> Press CR to quit... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the >>>>>>>>>> web. I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known >>>>>>>>>> issue? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your >>>>>>>>>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Andreas S >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/attachments/20161007/892651ec/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2016 10:06:05 -0700 >> From: Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo5 download for linux - interpreter >> cannot read image file >> Message-ID: >> <CAO4d=Z3ORte-ro63YwZ92db1z+tNT=gwgdwfi5dcyha3mcr...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi Stef, >> >> Can you explain a little bit about what this 'How to' is? Just now I'm able >> to finally run pharo5 on my CentOS with glibc version < 2.15 and I wrote my >> finding in my other reply. >> >> Are you referring to how to put these things together to finally able to >> run pharo? Or are you referring to my digging through the error? >> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 11:08 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Hi andreas >>> >>> could you write a little how to so that we can put it on the web site? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> Le 7/10/16 ? 06:20, Andreas Sunardi a ?crit : >>> >>> Thanks, Bernardo. That fogbugz case is exactly the problem I'm having. >>> >>> This VM (pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip) is able to open Pharo 5.0 image from >>> Pharo download page. This is a good sign. >>> >>> Upon opening the image, I am, however, presented immediately with >>> 'MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "/" is nil'. It's coming from >>> SystemSettingsPersistence class >> defaultPreferenceFileReference >>> >>> It boils down to >>> OSEnvironment#getEnv: 'HOME' >>> >>> a failure in building an FFI call. The FFI call function signature is >>> #( String getenv (String string) ) >>> >>> The context object built from OSEnvironment#getEnv: gives answer 'arg1', >>> instead of 'string', to a call to #method#argumentNames. Down the road, an >>> IRMethod instance is trying to find the index for 'string' and can't find >>> any, because what is stored is 'arg1'. >>> >>> I'm out of my depth at this point, and this is a separate issue than not >>> being able to start the image. I have to think where I want to go from here. >>> >>> So, thank you for all of you, for the exceedingly quick and friendly help. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hold on, >>>> >>>> There's also this issue >>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17353/build-spur-vm-for-debian-old-libc >>>> >>>> where in one comment jan.vrany recommended his build >>>> >>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/job/pharo-vm-spur-swing/ >>>> >>>> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/All/job/pharo-vm-spur >>>> -swing/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pharo-vm-spur-swing.zip >>>> >>>> that i have used in debian wheezy with the old libc for quite a while. i >>>> don't use it anymore because im in jessie. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you for the impressive quick response. Unfortunately, I have older >>>>> glibc. So now I'm struggling with compiling glibc 2.15 for 32 bit on my 64 >>>>> bit CentOS 6.5 machine. Not an easy thing to do. >>>>> >>>>> I'll try those VMs once I succeed in building this glibc >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> this >>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/latest.zip >>>>>> >>>>>> works pretty well in Debian GNU/Linux 8 Jessie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Cl?ment Bera <bera.clem...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for reporting the problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The error means the VM is incompatible with the image. There was a >>>>>>> change of image format in Pharo 5, so the package has likely an old VM >>>>>>> while the image has the new format, or the new VM while the image has >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> old format. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Someone will look into that problem in the incoming weeks. Most Pharo >>>>>>> maintainers are on Mac, we noticed recently that other OS were not >>>>>>> maintained carefully enough (We're sorry about that) and we're trying to >>>>>>> solve that problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Meantime.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you try the latest VM from here (latest.zip): >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/linux/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or if still failing, the latest VM from here (latest.zip): >>>>>>> http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One of these two VMs should work. Please tell me which one worked if >>>>>>> you try. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clement >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < >>>>>>> vonbecm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i already submitted a similar issue >>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18221/This-interpreter-ver >>>>>>>> s-6505-cannot-read-image-file-vers-6521 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> check it and see if it is the same >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 6, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Andreas Sunardi <a.suna...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm on CentOS 6.5 and I downloaded Pharo 5 for GNU/Linux w. libc < >>>>>>>>> 2.15 and for CentOS. Both won't start (I have no problem with Windows >>>>>>>>> version): >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ pharo >>>>>>>>> This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 6521). >>>>>>>>> Press CR to quit... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm unable to find report or information about this issue on the >>>>>>>>> web. I think it was like this ~2 months ago as well. Is this a known >>>>>>>>> issue? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> First time posting question in this mailing list, so I beg your >>>>>>>>> pardon if I break any mailing list rule. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Andreas S >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernardo E.C. >>>> >>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://lists.pharo.org/pipermail/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org/attachments/20161007/72459f1f/attachment.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-users mailing list >> Pharo-users@lists.pharo.org >> http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Pharo-users Digest, Vol 42, Issue 29 >> ******************************************* >
