> On 01 Jul 2016, at 11:27, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> btw, why NeoJSON is not deprecated in benefit of STON?

Although there is obviously a relation between the two (STON is inspired by 
JSON, STON has some basic backward compatibility with JSON, same project style, 
same author), there are also differences.

JSON is by definition much simpler and much more limited (no type info for 
objects, no complex structures like shared and circular references) while STON 
was designed specifically to cover those.

JSON needs much more explicit mapping support to deal with anything except for 
simple maps and lists.

In terms of documentation, the API, it would confuse the hell out of regular 
JSON users to see things mixed up with STON which they are probably not 
interested in at all. I think this last point might even be the most important 
one.

> Esteban
> 
>> On 01 Jul 2016, at 08:52, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks sven
>> 
>> I was thinking to add a section in the chapter but I will wait for your 
>> solution.
>> 
>> 
>> stef
>> 
>> 
>> Le 1/7/16 à 00:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes, object properties in JSON are not ordered, by definition. But for 
>>> humans it can make sense.
>>> Converting your domain objects to OrderedDictionaries or overwriting 
>>> #neoJSONOn: are valid ways to control NeoJSON.
>>> 
>>> However, I also think that it might be possible to solve the ordering 
>>> requirement with a regular mapping, provided I make a little internal 
>>> change - I will investigate that and report back.
>>> 
>>> Sven
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Jun 2016, at 17:29, PBKResearch <pe...@pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Bernardo
>>>> Thanks for this. After sending my previous mail, I did what I should have 
>>>> done first and looked at list of collection objects in the system browser. 
>>>> So I discovered OrderedDictionary for the first time. I am pleased to see 
>>>> that this is the key to the solution.
>>>> Peter
>>>> From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras
>>>> Sent: 30 June 2016 16:17
>>>> To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Provide a mapping for a collection of 
>>>> <Association>s in NeoJSON
>>>> Peter,
>>>>  i had the same issue, i couldn't find the way to do it, but i hack my own 
>>>> writing like this
>>>> NDBFood>>neoJsonOn: neoJSONWriter
>>>>            "custom writing"
>>>>              neoJSONWriter
>>>>                        writeMap:
>>>>                                    (OrderedDictionary new
>>>>                                                add: 'ndb_no' -> ndbno;
>>>>                                                add: 'full_name' -> name;
>>>>                                                add: 'food_group' -> fg;
>>>>                                                add: 'factors' -> self 
>>>> factors;
>>>>                                                add: 'nutrients' -> self 
>>>> nutrients;
>>>>                                                yourself)
>>>> i just implement my own writing for my objects.
>>>> HTH
>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:06 PM, PBKResearch <pe...@pbkresearch.co.uk> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> I have recently used NeoJSON for the first time. All went pretty well, 
>>>>> but I would like to make a small tweak to the output, which probably 
>>>>> involves defining a mapping. I have read through the information in the 
>>>>> NeoJSON pdf, and also looked at the class comments, but I am  a bit lost. 
>>>>> Could Sven or anyone please give me a hint?
>>>>> What I want is to construct a JSON object as a Pharo dictionary, but then 
>>>>> control the order in which the fields are output to the JSON file. 
>>>>> Clearly the order is irrelevant for a computer, but it could be helpful 
>>>>> to a human reader to put them in an order which reflects the way humans 
>>>>> think about the objects. The keys of a dictionary are of course 
>>>>> unordered, so this is not possible, but if we step back a bit we see that 
>>>>> a dictionary is often constructed from a collection of associations; if 
>>>>> we could stop at this stage, and have a mapping which outputs the 
>>>>> associations in the order in which they appear in the collection, this 
>>>>> would give the control I am looking for.
>>>>> Am I talking nonsense, or is there any way of implementing this using 
>>>>> NeoJSON mappings?
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>> Peter Kenny
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Bernardo E.C.
>>>> Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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