Wait. Kafka is a part of Hadoop, now? Getting some Love! There's a good match right there. Makes for a very good lambda architecture. They need a meta. Hello squeak!!! Somebody just needs to build a kafka interface and a spark callback interface. Get squeak with caching to start grinding data, it's right there.

You're right, Phil. Furthermore these names are personable, effective marketing and they always have something to do with what they do. Taker flume, sqoop, yarn or impala. I'll take the Impala, thank you. It's vintage.

In my case, choosing Mushroom has a reasonable descriptive power when considered in light of mobile code budding out all over the grid. It's a cloud solution.

Robert

On 12/08/2015 05:10 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
Whoever works with Hadoop tech would find names like:

Hadoop
Spark
Cassandra
HBase
Accumulo
Hive
Pig
Impala
Oozie
YARN
Kafka
Flume
Sqoop
...

Go datascience and you'll get:

R
Shiny
Jupyter
Pandas
Bokeh
D3

And in JS:

Node
Angular
Express

descriptive names? Not at all.

What matters is not the name, it is its description.

And, know what, put a generic name and it will be ungooglable.

Try with Visual Studio Code ...

Pfah, descriptive project names... As if these were descriptive:

Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf)
Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet)
Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (Trusty Tahr)
Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS (Precise Pangolin)

Oh yeah super descriptive names:

Oracle Communications Diameter Signaling Router

Have a clue? Enjoy, they have a bunch and renamed a few: https://www.oracle.com/products/oracle-a-z.html

Want to know? Pay the dues.

Phil



On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Robert Withers <robert.w.with...@gmail.com <mailto:robert.w.with...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I would need to disagree with you as inquiry is possible by
    description, rather than by name, through conversation with those
    who don't have to inquire, due to their knowledge [see Meno's
    Paradox...]. So, a third possibility exists through communal
    association. Do you know Kevin Bacon? ;-)

    I've used that language!

    On 12/08/2015 04:02 PM, EuanM wrote:

        The philosophical issue behind the disutility of project names
        like
        these is "Meno's Paradox"

        On 8 December 2015 at 21:01, EuanM <euan...@gmail.com
        <mailto:euan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            "I wish people would choose descriptive names for their
            projects" - Todd

            I agree.

I went looking for the current state of dbxtalk recently. It seemed
            to ba apackage designed for my needs - to X[-over] from a
            DB to
            [small]talk.

            I went there and the the page started talking about
            "Glorp" and
            "Garage".  Neither are mnemonic or meaningful

            These projects are just the tip of the iceberg.

            Pharo project names have publisher-only project names. The
            project
            name equivalent of write-only computer languages, like
            Brain-F**k.


            On 7 December 2015 at 17:52, Todd Blanchard
            <tblanch...@mac.com <mailto:tblanch...@mac.com>> wrote:

                Sigh.

                I wish people would choose descriptive names for their
                projects.  I went looking on Smalltalkhub for some
                capability and what I found are thousands of packages
                with names that mean nothing and no description
                entered either.  If you want to make sure nobody ever
                uses your code you've just taken a giant step in the
                right direction.  But if you hope to make something
                lots of people benefit from - nobody is going to look
                for "mushroom" when they want crypto capabilities.

                Sorry, this has been really bugging me lately.  We, as
                a community, do a lousy job of making our code easy to
                find.

                -Todd Blanchard

                    On Dec 7, 2015, at 07:38, Ben Coman
                    <b...@openinworld.com> wrote:

                    I like it, but it seems you missed my point :)
                    mushroom --> 117,000,000 is two orders of
                    magnitude more hidden.
                    Anyway, maybe I overplay its significance.
                    cheers -ben

                    On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Robert Withers
                    <robert.w.with...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:robert.w.with...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                        I renamed the project to Mushroom and I also
                        dumped the encoding work to
                        focus on shutdown, optimization and
                        serialization. Here's the wiki:
                        https://github.com/SqueakCryptographySquad/Mushroom/wiki

                        thanks,Robert


                        On 12/06/2015 01:42 AM, Ben Coman wrote:

                            On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Robert
                            Withers
                            <robert.w.with...@gmail.com
                            <mailto:robert.w.with...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                                On 12/05/2015 09:24 PM, Ben Coman wrote:

                                    On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:57 PM,
                                    Robert Withers
                                    <robert.w.with...@gmail.com
                                    <mailto:robert.w.with...@gmail.com>>
                                    wrote:

                                        Now I think you are right on
                                        with your observation.
                                        Additionally, the
                                        number
                                        of dialects could increase
                                        further with Fuel
                                        serialization, just port
                                        SecureSession and bits.

                                        Alright, I came up with a name
                                        and it may border on the
                                        egregious ...
                                        presenting ...

                                        "Maelstrom"

                                    Great sounding name.  However some
                                    general advice for the community,
                                    since I see a lot of great
                                    sounding project names drowned out
                                    in the
                                    noise of our web-search-centric
                                    universe.  A litmus test for project
                                    naming is using google search to
                                    find which return low search results.
                                    Today, its more important to be
                                    unique than any other attribute of a
                                    name.  So in general, *dictionary*
                                    english words are not the best.
                                    One technique is to intentionally
                                    mispell the word you like.  Here are
                                    some comparative examples (note,
                                    the surrounding quotes are required
                                    to avoid google trying to be
                                    helpful and correct the spelling)...

                                    "maelstrom"    --> 7,480,000
                                    "maelstroom"  --> 6,200
                                    "maelstrum"    --> 2,280
                                    "maelstruum"  --> 7

                                    Lots of interesting other
                                    techniques can be found by
                                    searching on:
                                    techniques to generate brand names
                                    or domain names.

                                    cheers -ben


                                I would be happy to change the names
                                to something more unique, though it
                                may
                                take a few. Are you suggesting
                                "maelstruum"?

                                cheers,
                                Robert


                            *Suggesting* yes, but the choice is yours
                            ;) You need to own it.

                            I think maelstruum is certainly memorable
                            with the double "u", but
                            maybe jarring next the the "m".  I'm
                            inclined to maelstroom, since I
                            associate it with "zoom".  I wouldn't
                            necessarily go for the absolute
                            lowest results.  I have an entirely
                            unsubstantiated belief that
                            anything less than 10,000 gives a
                            reasonable chance to compete once a
                            user's browsing history is taken into
                            account. Finally you need to
                            check existing results don't return
                            something abhorrent (I didn't do
                            this).

                            I'd encourage to play around testing on
                            google search.  Its quick and
                            easy to generate and test alternatives.
                            I've added a few more below.
                            "maelstra" --> 3,560
                            "maelstram" --> 504
                            "maelstrim" --> 1200
                            "maelstroon" --> 58
                            "maelstroomi" --> 4

                            btw, I wouldn't swap the order of the "ae"
                            since that would be
                            susceptible to real typing errors.

                            cheers -ben








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