Thanks this is nice effort.
Now some remarks:
- Do you think that great speakers like doru would be invited to
prime time conference to talk about a language that is from 1980?
- You talk about momentum and shared space. Do you think that it is
wise to talk about a Smalltalk whose forum has 5 posts in a year?
- We have to create the momentum and we should not look back (it
does not mean that we should not know our culture and history) and
invent for real the future.
Now do not get me wrong: I do pharo and the battle is not against
squeak, cuis or... it is against Javascript, Ruby, Lua, Python.
So decide were you put your energy. I chose for mine.
This is my last post on this thread. People not happy with my points can
be not happy but I'm right and I will not deviate one inch
:).
Stef
PS: working on a teaser about Pharo and its vision
PSPS:
my vision
ultimate live environment
great reflective system
well integrated with C
well integrated with OSes
wonderful IDE
Le 14/11/15 06:02, EuanM a écrit :
I've created Yet Another Smalltalk First
Steps tutorial.
This is intended as one of a series.
It is designed to be cross-platform across
Squeak 5
Pharo 4
Seaside 3.1
Cuis
Dolphin 6
If you have experience running any of these systems on Windows, Linux
or MacOS, please check to see if I have the instructions correct for
your chosen pairing of Smalltalk and OS platform.
(As you'll see when you look, I do not have detailed instructions for
aspects of MacOS).
The document is at:
http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/get-smalltalk-up-and-running.html
(It's intended to move to a different blog after this review process).
I feel the need to do this as cross-Smalltalks tutorial because of
findings and 4 charts I've placed at:
http://smalltalkinsmallsteps.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/mindshare-of-smalltalk-in-development.html
Essentially, Smalltalk mindshare and use is incredibly tiny, compared
to other languages in the same space. (We all know this, but seeing
it represented graphically has a more visceral effect, IMO)
Aggregating interest in all the Smalltalks still does not bring more
than a tiny proportion of the interest in, and use of, Ruby.
In turn, Ruby is (quite understandably) small in comparison to JavaScript.
Comparing interest in any specific Smalltalk is, predictably, smaller
than the aggregate interest in Smalltalk.
Our community seems determined to split itself into smaller and
smaller sub-communities. I think we do ourselves a disservice this
way.
My initial contribution will be to try to provide some explicitly
pan-Smalltalk beginners' tutorials, like this one.
Cheers, and happy Smalltalking,
EuanM
