Just as a curiosity what Crunchbang install are you using? I have used
my script on Crunchbang. But I haven't used #! since it ended. I like
staying current so I always installed Waldorf and the ran another script
to upgrade to Sid install all of my stuff. Then I would run my script in
my new Jessie based #!.
I started this email above and then decided to do a fresh install #! as
stated above. It worked just fine.
In fact I tried it while still as Waldorf. Pharo failed there stating
that it required GLIBC 2.15. If I remember correctly.
I am at a loss as to what the problem is.
Jimmie
On 07/26/2015 05:06 AM, Shadowfirebird wrote:
Actually, no, because I assumed that there were broken dependancies in
Crunchbang and it wouldn't help. Here goes...
TL;DR: I just got tangled up in missing dependancies; I think this is
a #! problem. Thanks for the idea, though.
Long version:
shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0]%: ./pharo
could not find module vm-display-X11
[1] 4875 abort ./pharo
(134) shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0]%: cd bin
shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0/bin]%: ldd vm-display-X11
linux-gate.so.1 (0xf776e000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf771d000)
libGL.so.1 => not found
libX11.so.6 => not found
libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7572000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf776f000)
Well outside of my comfort zone here, but a quick web search suggests
I might want libgl1-mesa-glx or libgl1-mesa-swx11? Looking at Synaptic
I can see a libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686:i386, so let's try that?
(100) shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0/bin]%: sudo apt-get
install libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686:i386 : Depends: libgl1-mesa-swx11:i386 (=
8.0.5-4+deb7u2) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libc6:i386 (>= 2.3.6-6~)
but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libgcc1:i386 (>= 1:4.1.1)
but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libstdc++6:i386 (>= 4.1.1)
but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libx11-6:i386 but it is
not going to be installed
Depends: libxext6:i386 but it is
not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Okay. Hmm. Maybe apt-get is failing to chain-install these dependancies? Maybe?
(100) shadow@jenna[~/shadow/scratch/pharo4.0/bin]%: sudo apt-get
install libc6:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libc6 : Depends: libgcc1 but it is not going to be installed
Breaks: libc6:i386 (!= 2.19-13) but 2.13-38+deb7u8 is to
be installed
libc6:i386 : Breaks: libc6 (!= 2.13-38+deb7u8) but 2.19-13 is to
be installed
libcairo2 : Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libpixman-1-0 (>= 0.21.6) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libxcb-render0 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxcb-shm0 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxcb1 (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libxrender1 but it is not going to be installed
libcurl3-gnutls : Depends: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.17-0) but it is
not going to be installed
Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2 (>= 1.10+dfsg~) but
it is not going to be installed
Depends: libidn11 (>= 1.13) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: librtmp0 (>= 2.3) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libssh2-1 (>= 1.2.6) but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: ca-certificates but it is not going
to be installed
libdbus-glib-1-2 : Depends: libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.16) but it is not
going to be installed
libglib2.0-0 : Depends: libffi5 (>= 3.0.4) but it is not going to
be installed
Depends: libpcre3 (>= 8.10) but it is not going to
be installed
Depends: libselinux1 (>= 1.32) but it is not going
to be installed
Recommends: shared-mime-info
libimlib2 : Depends: libbz2-1.0 but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libgif4 (>= 4.1.4) but it is not going to be
installed
Depends: libid3tag0 (>= 0.15.1b) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libjpeg8 (>= 8c) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2.13-4) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libtiff4 (> 3.9.5-3~) but it is not going to
be installed
liblua5.1-0 : Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) but it is not going
to be installed
libruby1.8 : Depends: libgdbm3 (>= 1.8.3) but it is not going to
be installed
Depends: libreadline5 (>= 5.2) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libssl1.0.0 (>= 1.0.0) but it is not going
to be installed
libx11-6 : Depends: libxcb1 (>= 1.2) but it is not going to be installed
libxft2 : Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0) but it is not going
to be installed
Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5) but it is not going to
be installed
Depends: libxrender1 but it is not going to be installed
libxml2 : Depends: liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614) but it is
not going to be installed
Recommends: xml-core but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may
be caused by held packages.
sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 19.22s user 0.12s system 99% cpu
19.356 total
...Ooof. Okay, giving up now. Thanks for the idea, though.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
<marianop...@gmail.com> wrote:
Did you try doing a "ldd" over the VM executable file so that you can find
the missing dependencies?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Shadowfirebird<shadowfireb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Same problem. I'm afraid -- Crunchbang refuses to install libasound2:i386
because it cannot fulfill the dependencies.
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Jimmie Houchin<jlhouc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello,
Welcome to Pharo and the Pharo community. Smalltalk/Pharo are
exceptionally empowering tools. And getting better all the time.
My apologies for your difficulties. I personally have not seen that page
before as I already have scripts for installing all of the requisite
libraries. This script has worked for me for years on Ubuntu or other Debian
based distros. My favorite was Crunchbang.
I did not originate this script but believe I started with I found years
ago for either Debian or Ubuntu. I cleaned it up and added to it over time.
It installs all the necessary libraries to my knowledge. Whether or not
installs more than I need I do not know. All I do know is that after running
the script Pharo runs perfectly.
I copied all of this from my setup-pharo.sh script.
I run this script anytime I have a fresh Linux install.
I then sudo -s and run the script.
dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update
apt-get --yes install cmake zip bash-completion ruby git xz-utils
debhelper devscripts
apt-get --yes install libc6-dev:i386 libasound2:i386 libasound2-dev:i386
libasound2-plugins:i386
apt-get --yes install libssl-dev:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386 libssh2-1:i386
libfreetype6-dev:i386 libx11-dev:i386 libsm-dev:i386 libice-dev:i386
apt-get --yes install build-essential gcc-multilib g++
apt-get --yes install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
Hopefully this can help your experience with Pharo and/or Squeak.
Jimmie
On 07/25/2015 09:54 AM, Shadowfirebird wrote:
Hi all,
I've been having trouble getting *any* sort of Smalltalk working on
Linux. But ultimately I got Pharo (my first choice) working on Debian
Jessie.
It wasn't terribly hard in the end, but since the instructions at
http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#64-bit-System-Setup seem to be out
of date, I thought it might be helpful to post something in case those in
charge of that page would like to update. Since there is no issue tracker,
I assume this is a good a place as any.
## Short Version ##
* sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
* sudo apt-get update
* sudo apt-get install lib32zl lib32ncurses5
Note that there is no ia32-libs package on Jessie, as far as I can tell.
(I have no idea whether you actually need to install lib32ncurses5, but
those were what apt-get suggested, and it worked.)
I do have a startup error -- "MessageNotUnderstood:
EmbeddedFreeTypeFontInstaller>>failedToOpen:Index:" -- but it doesn't seem
to break anything.
## Longer version / Rant ##
Pharo turned out to be impossible on my netbook (where I would like to
use it, sadly) because it is still running Crunchbang, which is Debian Woody
under the hood. So in theory the fix from the 64bit install page should
work. It doesn't, though -- some sort of problem with #! I suppose
"The following packages have unmet dependacies:
ia32-libs: Depends: ia32-libs-i386"
Squeak, as downloaded from their site, has exactly the same problem.
Pharo isn't in the Debian Repository, but an old version of the Squeak
VM -- *just* the VM -- is. (Not sure what the point of that is.) It
doesn't work with the current Squeak image from the website. I did
eventually manage to get a compatible image ... via FTP. Good grief. (Good
enough to learn the ropes, I suppose.)
I really didn't want to go the Gnu Smalltalk road, but in desperation I
tried it. Under both Crunchbang and Debian Jessie, the gst-browser package
falls over immediately when you start it, a great big error trace I won't
bother to paste here. These are packages in the *repository*. Is no-one
maintaining them?
The point of this rant is to give context to the following: thank you.
Really, thank you, to the folks behind Pharo and everyone reading this.
This is the problem with FOSS: blink, and yesterday's rave technology is
gone. And Smalltalk is *important* -- I'm not a Smalltalk programmer, but
every time I play with it I learn so much about OOP, programming, and good
design of classes. And I keep coming back to try to work with it again,
because it offers things I want and just can't get elsewhere. The idea that
Smalltalk might one day just ... not run? Not worth thinking about.
Okay, broke a cardinal rule here. Apologies for joining a mailing list
and then immediately posting a long rant. Going to Lurk Mode now!
Shadow.
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wait at your gate / Hoping like the blind.
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