Hello,
Welcome to Pharo and the Pharo community. Smalltalk/Pharo are
exceptionally empowering tools. And getting better all the time.
My apologies for your difficulties. I personally have not seen that page
before as I already have scripts for installing all of the requisite
libraries. This script has worked for me for years on Ubuntu or other
Debian based distros. My favorite was Crunchbang.
I did not originate this script but believe I started with I found years
ago for either Debian or Ubuntu. I cleaned it up and added to it over
time. It installs all the necessary libraries to my knowledge. Whether
or not installs more than I need I do not know. All I do know is that
after running the script Pharo runs perfectly.
I copied all of this from my setup-pharo.sh script.
I run this script anytime I have a fresh Linux install.
I then sudo -s and run the script.
dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update
apt-get --yes install cmake zip bash-completion ruby git xz-utils
debhelper devscripts
apt-get --yes install libc6-dev:i386 libasound2:i386 libasound2-dev:i386
libasound2-plugins:i386
apt-get --yes install libssl-dev:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386 libssh2-1:i386
libfreetype6-dev:i386 libx11-dev:i386 libsm-dev:i386 libice-dev:i386
apt-get --yes install build-essential gcc-multilib g++
apt-get --yes install libgl1-mesa-dev:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
Hopefully this can help your experience with Pharo and/or Squeak.
Jimmie
On 07/25/2015 09:54 AM, Shadowfirebird wrote:
Hi all,
I've been having trouble getting *any* sort of Smalltalk working on
Linux. But ultimately I got Pharo (my first choice) working on Debian
Jessie.
It wasn't terribly hard in the end, but since the instructions at
http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation#64-bit-System-Setup seem to be
out of date, I thought it might be helpful to post something in case
those in charge of that page would like to update. Since there is no
issue tracker, I assume this is a good a place as any.
## Short Version ##
* sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
* sudo apt-get update
* sudo apt-get install lib32zl lib32ncurses5
Note that there is no ia32-libs package on Jessie, as far as I can
tell. (I have no idea whether you actually need to install
lib32ncurses5, but those were what apt-get suggested, and it worked.)
I do have a startup error -- "MessageNotUnderstood:
EmbeddedFreeTypeFontInstaller>>failedToOpen:Index:" -- but it doesn't
seem to break anything.
## Longer version / Rant ##
Pharo turned out to be impossible on my netbook (where I would like to
use it, sadly) because it is still running Crunchbang, which is Debian
Woody under the hood. So in theory the fix from the 64bit install page
should work. It doesn't, though -- some sort of problem with #! I suppose
"The following packages have unmet dependacies:
ia32-libs: Depends: ia32-libs-i386"
Squeak, as downloaded from their site, has exactly the same problem.
Pharo isn't in the Debian Repository, but an old version of the Squeak
VM -- *just* the VM -- is. (Not sure what the point of that is.) It
doesn't work with the current Squeak image from the website. I did
eventually manage to get a compatible image ... via FTP. Good grief.
(Good enough to learn the ropes, I suppose.)
I really didn't want to go the Gnu Smalltalk road, but in desperation
I tried it. Under both Crunchbang and Debian Jessie, the gst-browser
package falls over immediately when you start it, a great big error
trace I won't bother to paste here. These are packages in the
*repository*. Is no-one maintaining them?
The point of this rant is to give context to the following: thank
you. Really, thank you, to the folks behind Pharo and everyone
reading this.
This is the problem with FOSS: blink, and yesterday's rave technology
is gone. And Smalltalk is *important* -- I'm not a Smalltalk
programmer, but every time I play with it I learn so much about OOP,
programming, and good design of classes. And I keep coming back to
try to work with it again, because it offers things I want and just
can't get elsewhere. The idea that Smalltalk might one day just ...
not run? Not worth thinking about.
Okay, broke a cardinal rule here. Apologies for joining a mailing
list and then immediately posting a long rant. Going to Lurk Mode now!
Shadow.
