The same as Phil mentioned, but with Emacs on Debian Wheezy you get a lot of ^M and Emacs says this about the coding system:
- -- undecided-unix (alias: unix) No conversion on encoding, automatic conversion on decoding. Type: undecided (do automatic conversion) On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:46 PM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> wrote: > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think this is an interesting use case, and it is already supported only >> in a less classic way :). >> >> I just wrote a blog post about it: >> >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/managing-external-pharo-scripts-with-gtinspector-and-gtspotter/ >> >> Let me know if this works for you. >> > > Nice, I need to go to 4.0 to get that Spotter thing :-) > > One note: scripts are saved with the CR (or ^M) line ending by Pharo. > Now, vim in Linux positively hates that (showing a single line with ^M s > all over). > > This also makes diffing files a pain (meld is not recognizing any lines > etc). > > So, I have to mac2unix convert them after they have been saved. > > I think we should be much better LF (\n) citizens in the Linux world. > > > Phil > > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:02 PM, p...@highoctane.be <p...@highoctane.be> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Le 3 mai 2015 12:28, "Esteban Lorenzano" <esteba...@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> > >>> > >>> >> On 02 May 2015, at 23:28, p...@highoctane.be wrote: >>> >> >>> >> When some sysadmin has to edit them on servers, you want them in .st >>> files. >>> >> >>> >> No class. No IDE. Not too much Smalltalk. >>> > >>> > >>> > but then >>> > - if not smalltalk, the scripts should not be in the image… even in >>> workspaces >>> > - if the sysadmin has to edit them, he can always do something like: >>> > >>> > #! /bin/bash >>> > >>> > pharo MyImage.image eval “ >>> > my >>> > multilined >>> > more or less smalltalk >>> > script” >>> > >>> > - you can always see and edit your scripts by doing: >>> > >>> > 'play-cache' asFileReference inspect >>> > >>> > (instead ‘play-cache’ you can put: ‘my-script-folder’, whatever) >>> > >>> > and you will have a complete inspector that allows you to see and edit >>> your scripts (who are in the file system, where a sysadmin can find them, >>> and not in an obscure workspace). >>> > >>> > also I bet you would take no more than 5’ to add functionality to >>> gtinspector (it is designed to be moldable, after all) to add new scripts, >>> and no matter what other functionality you need… and the result will be a >>> lot more “pharoish” than storing it in a workspace. >>> >>> I agree to these things for the Pharoish experience. >>> >>> Just that those scripts are to be edited with Vim on remote boxes. >>> >>> I don't want to convert a sysadmin to pharo. >>> >>> I want pharo to be used as any other tool in the lineup. >>> >>> My image builder is fullly in a class etc. >>> >>> Also I am using Sebastian Sastre's ConfigurationFiles that do load >>> conf/SomeConfFile.st >>> >>> I have several such files: >>> >>> - email addresses >>> - mongodb conf >>> - seaside ports, debug level.. >>> - API config >>> - configuration file for a tree structure >>> - preferences >>> >>> These are using code that get eval'd because it is practical to use >>> variables etc. >>> >>> e.g. >>> >>> defaultBandwidth := 50 megabitsPerSecond. >>> >>> .... >>> >>> #(10 20 30 40) do: [:id | >>> config add: SomeModule new bandwidth: defaultBandwidth; id: id asString; >>> label: 'SomeLab', is asString; picture:'some.jpg'; geoLocation: 45.55@44.42; >>> yourself] >>> >>> .... >>> >>> ^config >>> >>> I am preparing them in with Playground etc. >>> >>> So nothing wrong with Playground. >>> >>> I just like the simple workspace too. >>> >>> I also added a : prefix in Spotlight to execute what I do type. >>> >>> Going 4.0 is not yet done here. >>> I am using 3.0 with GToolkit. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> > >>> > Esteban >>> > >>> > >>> >> Just the DSL on an as needed to know basis to configure things. >>> >> >>> >> That's better that XML/YAML/JSON... >>> >> >>> >> So, that's the case. >>> >> >>> >> Startup scripts same story. >>> >> >>> >> Phil >>> >> >>> >> Le 2 mai 2015 17:56, "Esteban Lorenzano" <esteba...@gmail.com> a >>> écrit : >>> >>> >>> >>> well… IMO those scripts also should be in a method. >>> >>> Probably under a class named: MyCoolProjectRunScripts or something >>> like that… but in a class. >>> >>> If they are in a class you can: >>> >>> - save them with your project >>> >>> - version them >>> >>> - if you add <script> pragma, you can even execute them by clicking >>> on it (Pharo 4). >>> >>> >>> >>> so… even if you might have a case where you want the save/load… you >>> actually have (what I consider) a better option. >>> >>> >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 02 May 2015, at 15:17, Esteban A. Maringolo < >>> emaring...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Ditto here. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I have cron tasks that fire a smalltak script, the startup script >>> itself or a small import script that doesn't belong to a class. All those >>> are my cases for the workspace. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> El may 2, 2015 4:38 AM, "p...@highoctane.be" <p...@highoctane.be> >>> escribió: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> playground cache is actually not nice when scripts are to be part >>> of a project with a name etc. And I have a ton of files in it. I can't >>> remember which is which. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I have scripts to do lots of cli things and I like the save as of >>> the workspace. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> But I have done extra key bindings for getting the ws or the >>> playground. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Phil >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Le 2 mai 2015 06:49, "Sergio Fedi" <sergio.f...@gmail.com> a >>> écrit : >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Oh! That link gives a GREAT explanation! Thanks. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On the subject of how to show it better, I'm not a graphic >>> designer (although I'm working with one) >>> >>>>>> so I'll ask him for some insights on the matter. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> For now, he pointed out some issues like lack of consistency on >>> some interfaces >>> >>>>>> and some other details. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.
