> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:26, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I (we) really appreciate your work, Kilon. > It is really needed and there is not so much time with the talent/time/will > to do it. > > Please, keep going!
+111 > Esteban > >> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:22, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I converted the first 5 chapters to Pharo 3 , 1 chapter has been ported by >> Stef and another from Damien, so we are more or less at 50% but I gave up as >> I was burned out and fed up documenting stuff :D. But (Arnold accent) I >> will be back ! >> >> My conversion was not flawless since this was my first project using Pillar. >> I think however that is ok quality. >> >> By the way I am aware of the work on the documentation for all books >> generally because I follow my github feed. >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu> wrote: >> Kilon, >> >> You did start with converting PBE, right ? What is the current status ? I >> kind of liked the git book. And it is badly needed, indeed. >> >> Sven >> >> > On 07 Nov 2014, at 13:56, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Stef I did not meant it as offence, of course you do great amount of work >> > for documentation. But I cannot ignore the fact that PBE is still stuck to >> > 1.4, that there is no documentation for Pharo Morphic and most libraries >> > if not all are partly documented."lacks documentation" does not mean that >> > there is no documentation. I meant exactly what I typed. >> > >> > Stef you guys do an amazing job and I am proud to be a member of the Pharo >> > community and make my own small contributions to make Pharo more popular >> > and better. >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:27 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: >> > >> > On 4/11/14 13:53, kilon alios wrote: >> >> I have welcomed Amber with open arms, but I have failed miserably to wrap >> >> my head around it. >> >> >> >> Is ironic if you think about, Pharo really lacks documentation even in >> >> basic areas, >> > Are you joking? I spend my time writing books and chapters and their >> > quality is quite good. >> >> libraries are nowhere near as powerful as those offered by javascript yet >> >> I have found Pharo way easier to use. Web development looks to me like a >> >> big pile of unnecessary mess. Actually Amber is the best part of it :D >> >> >> >> So the problem for me is not so much the System Browser , but the steep >> >> learning curve . Or maybe its just the fact that I dont like many of the >> >> web frameworkds, including html / js / css etc. >> >> >> >> I wish I could make something in pharo and click a button to deploy it as >> >> a website but alas thats just a dream. >> > >> > I would like to have a solution for that without having a smalltalk >> > compiler in JS as amber is doing. >> >> I think however that for the amount of developers Amber has been making >> >> some amazing progress. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Pierce Ng <pie...@samadhiweb.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:21:18PM +0200, kilon alios wrote: >> >> > Even though I always have been a supporter of Amber the IDE has still a >> >> > very long way to go. >> >> >> >> I've been meaning to build a code browser for Amber (and GST) in Pharo >> >> with >> >> Omnibrowser using the Shampoo protocol[1], once I get some copious spare >> >> time. >> >> >> >> [1] http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo >> >> >> >> Pierce >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >
