I (we) really appreciate your work, Kilon. It is really needed and there is not so much time with the talent/time/will to do it.
Please, keep going! Esteban > On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:22, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I converted the first 5 chapters to Pharo 3 , 1 chapter has been ported by > Stef and another from Damien, so we are more or less at 50% but I gave up as > I was burned out and fed up documenting stuff :D. But (Arnold accent) I will > be back ! > > My conversion was not flawless since this was my first project using Pillar. > I think however that is ok quality. > > By the way I am aware of the work on the documentation for all books > generally because I follow my github feed. > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu > <mailto:s...@stfx.eu>> wrote: > Kilon, > > You did start with converting PBE, right ? What is the current status ? I > kind of liked the git book. And it is badly needed, indeed. > > Sven > > > On 07 Nov 2014, at 13:56, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com > > <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Stef I did not meant it as offence, of course you do great amount of work > > for documentation. But I cannot ignore the fact that PBE is still stuck to > > 1.4, that there is no documentation for Pharo Morphic and most libraries if > > not all are partly documented."lacks documentation" does not mean that > > there is no documentation. I meant exactly what I typed. > > > > Stef you guys do an amazing job and I am proud to be a member of the Pharo > > community and make my own small contributions to make Pharo more popular > > and better. > > > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:27 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr > > <mailto:steph...@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > On 4/11/14 13:53, kilon alios wrote: > >> I have welcomed Amber with open arms, but I have failed miserably to wrap > >> my head around it. > >> > >> Is ironic if you think about, Pharo really lacks documentation even in > >> basic areas, > > Are you joking? I spend my time writing books and chapters and their > > quality is quite good. > >> libraries are nowhere near as powerful as those offered by javascript yet > >> I have found Pharo way easier to use. Web development looks to me like a > >> big pile of unnecessary mess. Actually Amber is the best part of it :D > >> > >> So the problem for me is not so much the System Browser , but the steep > >> learning curve . Or maybe its just the fact that I dont like many of the > >> web frameworkds, including html / js / css etc. > >> > >> I wish I could make something in pharo and click a button to deploy it as > >> a website but alas thats just a dream. > > > > I would like to have a solution for that without having a smalltalk > > compiler in JS as amber is doing. > >> I think however that for the amount of developers Amber has been making > >> some amazing progress. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Pierce Ng <pie...@samadhiweb.com > >> <mailto:pie...@samadhiweb.com>> wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:21:18PM +0200, kilon alios wrote: > >> > Even though I always have been a supporter of Amber the IDE has still a > >> > very long way to go. > >> > >> I've been meaning to build a code browser for Amber (and GST) in Pharo with > >> Omnibrowser using the Shampoo protocol[1], once I get some copious spare > >> time. > >> > >> [1] http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo <http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo> > >> > >> Pierce > >> > >> > > > > > > >