I (we) really appreciate your work, Kilon. 
It is really needed and there is not so much time with the talent/time/will to 
do it. 

Please, keep going! 

Esteban

> On 07 Nov 2014, at 14:22, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I converted the first 5 chapters to Pharo 3 , 1 chapter has been ported by 
> Stef and another from Damien, so we are more or less at 50% but I gave up as 
> I was burned out and fed up documenting stuff :D. But (Arnold accent)  I will 
> be back ! 
> 
> My conversion was not flawless since this was my first project using Pillar. 
> I think however that is ok quality. 
> 
> By the way I am aware of the work on the documentation for all books 
> generally because I follow my github feed. 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <s...@stfx.eu 
> <mailto:s...@stfx.eu>> wrote:
> Kilon,
> 
> You did start with converting PBE, right ? What is the current status ? I 
> kind of liked the git book. And it is badly needed, indeed.
> 
> Sven
> 
> > On 07 Nov 2014, at 13:56, kilon alios <kilon.al...@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:kilon.al...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Stef I did not meant it as offence, of course you do great amount of work 
> > for documentation. But I cannot ignore the fact that PBE is still stuck to 
> > 1.4, that there is no documentation for Pharo Morphic and most libraries if 
> > not all are partly documented."lacks documentation" does not mean that 
> > there is no documentation. I meant exactly what I typed.
> >
> > Stef you guys do an amazing job and I am proud to be a member of the Pharo 
> > community and make my own small contributions to make Pharo more popular 
> > and better.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:27 PM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr 
> > <mailto:steph...@free.fr>> wrote:
> >
> > On 4/11/14 13:53, kilon alios wrote:
> >> I have welcomed Amber with open arms, but I have failed miserably to wrap 
> >> my head around it.
> >>
> >> Is ironic if you think about, Pharo really lacks documentation even in 
> >> basic areas,
> > Are you joking? I spend my time writing books and chapters and their 
> > quality is quite good.
> >> libraries are nowhere near as powerful as those offered by javascript yet 
> >> I have found Pharo way easier to use. Web development looks to me like a 
> >> big pile of unnecessary mess. Actually Amber is the best part of it :D
> >>
> >> So the problem for me is not so much the System Browser , but the steep 
> >> learning curve . Or maybe its just the fact that I dont like many of the 
> >> web frameworkds, including html / js / css etc.
> >>
> >> I wish I could make something in pharo and click a button to deploy it as 
> >> a website but alas thats just a dream.
> >
> > I would like to have a solution for that without having a smalltalk 
> > compiler in JS as amber is doing.
> >> I think however that for the amount of developers Amber has been making 
> >> some amazing progress.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Pierce Ng <pie...@samadhiweb.com 
> >> <mailto:pie...@samadhiweb.com>> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:21:18PM +0200, kilon alios wrote:
> >> > Even though I always have been a supporter of Amber the IDE has still a
> >> > very long way to go.
> >>
> >> I've been meaning to build a code browser for Amber (and GST) in Pharo with
> >> Omnibrowser using the Shampoo protocol[1], once I get some copious spare 
> >> time.
> >>
> >> [1] http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo <http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo>
> >>
> >> Pierce
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

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