On 4/11/14 13:53, kilon alios wrote:
I have welcomed Amber with open arms, but I have failed miserably to wrap my head around it.

Is ironic if you think about, Pharo really lacks documentation even in basic areas,
Are you joking? I spend my time writing books and chapters and their quality is quite good.
libraries are nowhere near as powerful as those offered by javascript yet I have found Pharo way easier to use. Web development looks to me like a big pile of unnecessary mess. Actually Amber is the best part of it :D

So the problem for me is not so much the System Browser , but the steep learning curve . Or maybe its just the fact that I dont like many of the web frameworkds, including html / js / css etc.

I wish I could make something in pharo and click a button to deploy it as a website but alas thats just a dream.

I would like to have a solution for that without having a smalltalk compiler in JS as amber is doing.
I think however that for the amount of developers Amber has been making some amazing progress.



On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Pierce Ng <pie...@samadhiweb.com <mailto:pie...@samadhiweb.com>> wrote:

    On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:21:18PM +0200, kilon alios wrote:
    > Even though I always have been a supporter of Amber the IDE has
    still a
    > very long way to go.

    I've been meaning to build a code browser for Amber (and GST) in
    Pharo with
    Omnibrowser using the Shampoo protocol[1], once I get some copious
    spare time.

    [1] http://dmitrymatveev.co.uk/shampoo

    Pierce



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