I agree that reimplementing things in Pharo is a good solution, if that
means a cleaner and more flexible design that brings more clarity to anyone
viewing the code. Definetly Pharo promotes those things or else I would
have little reason to keep using it. Yes agree , my solution is a temporary
solution, more like a sensible compromise, but a compromise non the less.

Having ideals and dreams is really important. "Flying" once sounded
ridiculous and it was that crazy idea that brought us the airplanes, took a
long time but it eventually happened.

After all there is room to implement things and there is room to take
advantage existing technology , both have a lot of benefits to offer to the
user.



On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:59 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <s...@clipperadams.com>
wrote:

> kilon.alios wrote
> > his dynabook is vaporware
>
> The Dynabook is a vision of what computing could be, not a product, and so
> can not be vaporware i.e. announced but not delivered. Looked at another
> way, you are using a Dynabook, since Smalltalk was an iteration of an
> attempt to implement of this vision.
>
>
> kilon.alios wrote
> > "Why fight them , when you can join them?"
>
> The problem is that "them" = "a pile of code so complicated that it's
> beyond
> the ability of a single human being to understand". When you make a choice
> to use [ GNU/Linux | OS X | Windows ] + "suite of applications that are so
> cool I can't live without", you end up with LOC equivalent to the entire
> Library of Congress, impossible to understand, and requiring countless
> context switches for all the languages and technologies involved. After
> spending the time to dig into this mess in a few places where you want to
> customize, you are lucky if you have any energy left over to create
> whatever
> your vision originally was, for which the computer seemed like the perfect
> tool.
>
>
> kilon.alios wrote
> > So now I am exploring the concept of how Pharo can control all these apps
> > without me having to reimplement these apps in Pharo which is just an
> > insane amount of work to code and maintain
>
> Of course this is better than nothing ;) It's a great way to fast-forward
> to
> the system of our dreams - make it work, then make it right. And at the
> same
> time I think it's important to remember that Smalltalk exists as a reaction
> to the unworkability of this software we are plugging into, and that the
> dream is still to see it all replaced, and then to see Smalltalk itself
> replaced by Frank or whatever the next distillation is of "what a computer
> really is".
>
> My 2c... Obviously my recovery is not going well and idealism has crept
> back
> in ;)
>
>
>
> -----
> Cheers,
> Sean
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