On 25 Apr 2014, at 22:20, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaring...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So coming back to Pharo realm, this is why I think ORM is really
> important for us, and I'm really happy this discussion finally took
> place.

But one of his points was that ORM layers made SQL obsolete by hiding much of 
its power, the ability to do (query and other) processing on the DB.

BTW, I don't think there is such a thing as transparent persistency.
 

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