On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 9 July 2013 09:13, Esteban Lorenzano <esteba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8 July 2013 22:43, Tudor Girba <tu...@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Igor, please get this point of view out of your system :).
>>>> 
>>>> First, not all programming languages are like this: You can easily run 
>>>> other VMs (e.g., Java) with more than 3 GB. But, let's not even go there: 
>>>> I can run Pharo with 1Gb on Mac without problems. According to your 
>>>> reasoning we might end up downgrading the Mac VM. Some data does not fit 
>>>> in memory, but if I can get all my data in my image, I will choose to do 
>>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> I am not saying that we should compare with Java, or that it is the end of 
>>>> the world that the Windows VM is highly restricted. I am simply saying 
>>>> that we should not dismiss this as a problem just because we do not know 
>>>> how, or do not have the resources to solve it right now.
>>>> 
>>>> After all, we are here to change the world :).
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, but this topic was raised multiple times already. Maybe we should
>>> stop wasting time on it?
>>> 
>>> All you need to do, to change the limit, go to
>>> platforms/win32/vm/sqWin32Alloc.h
>>> 
>>> And change this:
>>> 
>>> #ifndef MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY
>>> #define MAX_VIRTUAL_MEMORY 512*1024*1024
>>> #endif
>>> 
>>> So, if you want more, build VM with any limit you see fit.
>>> But there's a reason why in official VM its 512.
>> 
>> Which reason? (It is a real question, I do not remember why it is so low)
>> 
> 
> If you reserve most of memory for objects, think how you could use things like
> freetype, opengl, cairo & any other library which allocates memory on
> conventional heap.
> also, think that DLLs and kernel needs breathing space as well.

yep, but still could be doubled and have enough reserved memory for externals, 
I think.
In any case, we need a solution, 512m is obviously too small (no matter if 1G 
is still not enough, it would be a lot better).

Not to extend memory because "is still not enough" is like not healing a guy 
because "he will be dead old anyway" :) 

> 
> 
>> Esteban
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko.
> 


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