On 18 October 2012 18:33, Josh Berkus <j...@agliodbs.com> wrote: >> All we're discussing is moving a successful piece of software into >> core, which has been discussed for years at the international >> technical meetings we've both been present at. I think an open >> viewpoint on the feasibility of that would be reasonable, especially >> when it comes from one of the original designers. > > When I ask you for technical clarification or bring up potential > problems with a 2Q feature, you consistently treat it as a personal > attack and are emotionally defensive instead of answering my technical > questions. This, in turn, frustrates the heck out of me (and others) > because we can't get the technical questions answered. I don't want you > to justify yourself, I want a clear technical spec.
Well, this isn't "a 2Q feature"; perhaps that is part of the problem, but I couldn't say. I didn't know this was coming at all, nor is that a problem for me. Since we've talked about that general feature enough at meetings we've all been present at (and indeed, you chaired), I recognised it as that and treated it positively in that light. (I think even that Hannu may not have been present, just Marko). You made claims that were completely unfounded and yet also strangely negative. I picked you up on it because you'll kill discussion of the feature if I don't speak out, not because the speaker works with me. I'm not otherwise involved in the feature. So your assumption of off-list collusion is wrong, as is your claim of any emotional aspect to this from me. I don't think you can turn this back onto me. If a design is not clear, ask for clarification. Don't tell the world in general that the design is bad or flawed until you actually know it is. I hear "there is a problem with that patch" discussed too often. Unfounded negativity is as certain a killer as any real technical flaw, so we must be careful to avoid it. That comment goes to everybody, for any patch, but in this case to you because this is the second thread this week I've seen it. -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers