On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Robert Haas <robertmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Joshua Berkus <j...@agliodbs.com> wrote: >>> Ultimately, we're herding cats here. I don't think you're going to >>> get >>> the community to suddenly be willing to march in lockstep instead. >> >> If you, Peter, Simon, Robert, Heikki, Magnus, Peter G., Greg, Bruce and >> Andrew agreed on a calendar-driven, mostly unambiguous process and adhered >> to that process, then the one or two people who didn't follow along wouldn't >> matter. Everyone else would follow you. The reason things are chaotic now >> is that our lead committers do not have consensus and are even inconsistent >> from CF to CF individually. >> >> In other words: the problem is only unsolvable because *you* think it's >> unsolvable. If you decide the problem is solvable, you already have the >> means to solve it. > > That's a somewhat bizarre list of people. It both includes people who > haven't expressed many concerns about our process one way or the other > and excludes some who have. At any rate, clearly the problem is > exactly that there isn't consensus on this. I would generally say > that Tom, Greg Smith, and I are pretty close together on this issue, > and Peter G., Simon, and Dimitri are pretty close together on this > issue, but with a big gap in between those two groups. I am less > clear on how everyone else feels, but I think that saying that "all we > need" is to get consensus among those people is to define the problem, > not the solution.
Having just come back from a week away, I'm not really clear what you mean by "this issue". It worries me greatly to see my name in a divisive list like that. There are no teams here; each issue needs to be judged on its own, independently of each other and without regard to the person speaking. -- Simon Riggs http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/ PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers
