On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Tom Lane <t...@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> writes: >> Copying the statistics from the old server is on the pg_upgrade TODO >> list. I have avoided it because it will add an additional requirement >> that will make pg_upgrade more fragile in case of major version changes. > >> Does anyone have a sense of how often we change the statistics data >> between major versions? > > I don't think pg_statistic is inherently any more stable than any other > system catalog.
Agreed, but it would appear that in practice that a fair amount of it carries forward. If someone ripped up the statistics system and did them all over in such a way that the old fields had no meaning on future costing metrics, that'd probably be reasonable cause for a caveat involving full-blown reanalyze...still, that doesn't seem to happen every year. > We've whacked it around significantly just last week, > which might color my perception a bit, but there are other changes on > the to-do list. (For one example, see nearby complaints about > estimating TOAST-related costs, which we could not fix without adding > more stats data.) Is accruing additional statistics likely going to be a big problem? I noticed the addition of the new anyarray (presumably for array-selectivity) features; would planning with an "empty" assumption be disastrous vs. the old behavior, which had no concept of those at all? I don't think it's necessary to make statistics porting a feature of pg_upgrade in all circumstances, but it would be "nice" when possible. That having been said, perhaps there are other ways for pg_upgrade to be better invested in....or, best of all and somewhat unrelatedly, full blown logical replication. Although this conversation has taken focus on "how do we move stats forward", I am about as interested in "how do I run statements (like ANALYZE) more 'nicely'". The same general problem pervades many background task issues, including autovacuum and large physical reorganizations of data. -- fdr -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers