Tom Lane wrote:
> Bruce Momjian <br...@momjian.us> writes:
> > Tom Lane wrote:
> >> As of fairly recently, the Fedora package also uses pg_ctl for both
> >> starting and stopping.  We've fixed all the reasons that formerly
> >> existed to avoid use of pg_ctl, and it's a real PITA to try to
> >> implement the waiting logic at shell level.
> 
> > OK, that's a good use-case to warrant barrelling ahead with improving
> > pg_ctl for config-only installs.
> 
> Did I say that?  The Fedora packages don't support config-only
> arrangements (if you tried, SELinux would likely deny access to whatever
> directory you chose ...)
> 
> > What releases do we want to apply that
> > patch to allow postgres to dump config values and have pg_ctl use them? 
> > This patch is required for old/new installs for pg_upgrade to work.
> 
> I still think this is a matter for HEAD only.  We haven't supported
> these cases in back branches and so there is little argument for
> back-patching.

OK.  Just be aware that limits pg_upgrade to only upgrading old
config-only installs of PG 9.2+, e.g. old PG 9.2 to new PG 9.3.

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