Robert, > 1. We realize we have been too trigger-happy sometimes. > 2. But we really want you to participate. > 3. And we are trying very hard to do better. > 4. And please tell us if we screw up, so we can keep working on it.
I received a private offlist email from someone who didn't feel comfortable bringing up their issues with this list publicly. Let me quote from it, because I think it pins part of the issue: "I believe this is due to the current postgresql "commitfest" process whereby there is no real way to present new ideas or technologies without coming to the table with a fully-baked plan and patch. This is obvious even in the name "commitfest" since the expectation is that every patch presented is considered ready-to-commit by the patch presenter. This makes a novice or experimental contribution less likely." You'll notice that this has been a complaint of veteran contributors as well; WIP patches either get no review, or get reviewed as if they were expected to be committable. The person who e-mailed me suggests some form of PostgreSQL Incubator as a solution. I'm not sure about that, but it does seem to me that we need somewhere or some way that people can submit patches, ideas, git forks, etc., for discussion without that discussion needing to immediately move to the cleanliness/maintainability/supportable status of the patch. I'm concerned though that if these WIP projects don't get to -hackers, then their creators won't get the feedback they really need. Thoughts? -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers