Greetings, We have a curious situation, consider this:
Process 1: BEGIN TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE; CRETE TABLE table1 (i integer); INSERT INTO table1 VALUES (13); Process 2: BEGIN TRANSACTION ISOLATION LEVEL SERIALIZABLE; CREATE TABLE table2 (i integer); INSERT INTO table2 VALUES (123); COMMIT; Process 1: SELECT * FROM pg_class WHERE relname = 'table2'; -- no rows returned SELECT * FROM table2; -- works?! but at least no records returned INSERT INTO table2 VALUES (456); -- also works.. now we have a tuple in the table which appears to -- have been added before the table existed.. COMMIT; This happens, of course, because we use SysCache to look up table names to Oids and that uses SnapshotNow. In my view, this violates the basic principle of least suprise and means that while we have transaction DDL, but it's not really serializable (no, I don't particularly care about that). What I do worry about is that the bulk load discussion going on could be shot down because of this. We won't let the earlier transaction see any records in the table today because those tuples have an xmin later, but if we were to insert those tuples with the frozen XID (as I proposed in the other thread) then they'd be visible. I don't believe fixing this would be terribly difficult and, I believe, would be similar to what we've done else where (eg: with indexes)- basically, add a column to pg_class with the 'createdxmin' and then compare that against our transaction whenever we're doing table lookups. Thoughts? Thanks, Stephen
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