> On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 4:00 PM Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> wrote:
> > I don't agree with that? If (user+system) << wall then it is very
> > likely that recovery is IO bound. If system is a large percentage of
> > wall, then shared buffers is likely too small (or we're replacing the
> > wrong
> > buffers) because you spend a lot of time copying data in/out of the
> > kernel page cache. If user is the majority, you're CPU bound.
> >
> > Without user & system time it's much harder to figure that out - at
> > least for me.
> 
> Oh, that's an interesting point. At least now I'll know why I am supposed to 
> care
> about that log line the next time I see it. I guess we could include both 
> things,
> though the line might get a little long.
> Or maybe there's some other subset that would make sense.

Hi Robert,

The email threads from [1] can serve as indication that having complete view of 
resource usage (user+system+elapsed) is advantageous in different situations 
and 
pretty platform-generic. Also as  Andres and Simon earlier pointed out - the 
performance
insight into crash recovery/replication performance is next to nothing, judging 
just by 
looking at currently emitted log messages. The more the there is, the better I 
think. 

BTW,  if you now there's this big push for refactoring StartupXLOG() then what 
frustrating^H^H^H^H^H could be done better - at least from end-user point of 
view -  
is that there is lack of near real time cyclic messages (every 1min?) about 
current status, 
performance and maybe even ETA (simplistic case; assuming it is linear). 

[1] - https://commitfest.postgresql.org/30/2799/ 


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