Note: Changing the subject as I felt the topic has diverted from the
original reported case and also it might help others to pay attention.
On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 8:22 AM houzj.f...@fujitsu.com
<houzj.f...@fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > Consider below ways to allow the user to specify the parallel-safety option:
> >
> > (a)
> > CREATE TABLE table_name (...) PARALLEL DML { UNSAFE | RESTRICTED | SAFE }
> > ...
> > ALTER TABLE table_name PARALLEL DML { UNSAFE | RESTRICTED | SAFE } ..
> >
> > OR
> >
> > (b)
> > CREATE TABLE table_name (...) WITH (parallel_dml_enabled = true)
> > ALTER TABLE table_name (...) WITH (parallel_dml_enabled = true)
>
> Personally, I think the approach (a) might be better. Since it's similar to
> ALTER FUNCTION PARALLEL XXX which user might be more familiar with.
>
Okay, and I think for (b) true/false won't be sufficient because one
might want to specify restricted.
> Besides, I think we need a new default value about parallel dml safety. Maybe
> 'auto' or 'null'(different from safe/restricted/unsafe). Because, user is
> likely to alter the safety to the default value to get the automatic safety
> check, a independent default value can make it more clear.
>
Hmm, but auto won't work for partitioned tables, right? If so, that
might appear like an inconsistency to the user and we need to document
the same. Let me summarize the discussion so far in this thread so
that it is helpful to others.
We would like to parallelize INSERT SELECT (first step INSERT +
parallel SELECT and then Parallel (INSERT + SELECT)) and for that, we
have explored a couple of ways. The first approach is to automatically
detect if it is safe to parallelize insert and then do it without user
intervention. To detect automatically, we need to determine the
parallel-safety of various expressions (like default column
expressions, check constraints, index expressions, etc.) at the
planning time which can be costly but we can avoid most of the cost if
we cache the parallel safety for the relation. So, the cost needs to
be paid just once. Now, we can't cache this for partitioned relations
because it can be very costly (as we need to lock all the partitions)
and has deadlock risks (while processing invalidation), this has been
explained in email [1].
Now, as we can't think of a nice way to determine parallel safety
automatically for partitioned relations, we thought of providing an
option to the user. The next thing to decide here is that if we are
providing an option to the user in one of the ways as mentioned above
in the email, what should we do if the user uses that option for
non-partitioned relations, shall we just ignore it or give an error
that this is not a valid syntax/option? The one idea which Dilip and I
are advocating is to respect the user's input for non-partitioned
relations and if it is not given then compute the parallel safety and
cache it.
To facilitate users for providing a parallel-safety option, we are
thinking to provide a utility function
"pg_get_table_parallel_dml_safety(regclass)" that
returns records of (objid, classid, parallel_safety) for all parallel
unsafe/restricted table-related objects from which the table's
parallel DML safety is determined. This will allow user to identify
unsafe objects and if the required user can change the parallel safety
of required functions and then use the parallel safety option for the
table.
Thoughts?
Note - This topic has been discussed in another thread as well [2] but
as many of the key technical points have been discussed here I thought
it is better to continue here.
[1] -
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAA4eK1Jwz8xGss4b0-33eyX0i5W_1CnqT16DjB9snVC--DoOsQ%40mail.gmail.com
[2] -
https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/TYAPR01MB29905A9AB82CC8BA50AB0F80FE709%40TYAPR01MB2990.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com
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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.
