On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:21:17PM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:01 AM Masahiko Sawada
<masahiko.saw...@2ndquadrant.com> wrote:

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 20:14, Amit Kapila <amit.kapil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I had written above in the context of persisting these stats.  I mean
> to say if the process has bounced or server has restarted then the
> previous stats might not make much sense because we were planning to
> use pid [1], so the stats from process that has exited might not make
> much sense or do you think that is okay?  If we don't want to persist
> and the lifetime of these stats is till the process is alive then we
> are fine.
>

Sorry for confusing you. The above my idea is about having the stats
per slots. That is, we add spill_txns, spill_count and spill_bytes to
pg_replication_slots or a new view pg_stat_logical_replication_slots
with some columns: slot_name plus these stats columns and stats_reset.
The idea is that the stats values accumulate until either the slot is
dropped, the server crashed, the user executes the reset function, or
logical decoding is performed with different logical_decoding_work_mem
value than the previous time. In other words, the stats values are
reset in either case. That way, I think the stats values always
correspond to logical decoding using the same slot with the same
logical_decoding_work_mem value.


What if the decoding has been performed by multiple backends using the
same slot?  In that case, it will be difficult to make the judgment
for the value of logical_decoding_work_mem based on stats.  It would
make sense if we provide a way to set logical_decoding_work_mem for a
slot but not sure if that is better than what we have now.

What problems do we see in displaying these for each process?  I think
users might want to see the stats for the exited processes or after
server restart but I think both of those are not even possible today.
I think the stats are available till the corresponding WALSender
process is active.


I don't quite see what the problem is. We're in this exact position with
many other stats we track and various GUCs. If you decide to tune the
setting for a particular slot, you simply need to be careful which
backends decode the slot and what GUC values they used.

But I don't think this situation (multiple backends decoding the same
slot with different logical_decoding_work_mem values) is very common. In
most cases the backends/walsenders will all use the same value. If you
change that, you better remember that.

I really think we should not be inventing something that automatically
resets the stats when someone happens to change the GUC.


regards

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