On 3/27/20 6:07 PM, Andres Freund wrote:
Hi,

On 2020-03-27 16:57:46 -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
I really don't know what to say to this.  WAL is absolutely critical to
a backup being valid.  pgBackRest doesn't have a way to *just* validate
a backup today, unfortunately, but we're planning to support it in the
future and we will absolutely include in that validation checking all of
the WAL that's part of the backup.

Could you please address the fact that just about everybody uses base
backups + later WAL to have a short data loss window? Integrating the
WAL files necessary to make the base backup consistent doesn't achieve
much if we can't verify the WAL files afterwards. And fairly obviously
pg_basebackup can't do much about WAL created after its invocation.

Given that we need something separate to address that "verification
hole", I don't see why it's useful to have a special case solution (or
rather multiple ones, for stream and fetch) inside pg_basebackup.

There's a pretty big difference between not being able to play forward to the end of WAL and not being able to get the backup to restore to consistency at all.

The WAL that is generated during during the backup has special importance. Without it you have no backup at all. It's the difference between *some* data loss and *total* data loss.

Regards,
--
-David
da...@pgmasters.net


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