On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 7:10 PM Andres Freund <and...@anarazel.de> wrote:
> I really don't think it's ok to have as many abbrev abort related paths
> without any coverage - the relevant code isn't that trivial. And
> something like amcheck really doesn't strike me as sufficient. For one,
> it doesn't provide any coverage either. For another, plenty sorts don't
> end up in a form that amcheck sees.
I agree.
> Tests aren't just there to verify that the current behaviour isn't
> broken, they're also there to allow to develop with some confidence. And
> I don't think tuplesort as is really allows that, and e.g. abbreviated
> keys made that substantially worse. That happens, but I think it'd be
> good if you could help improving the situation.
I would like to improve this. I am mostly just pointing out that there
has been resistance to this historically. I am in favor of
mechanically increasing test coverage of tuplesort.c along the lines
you describe. I'm just a bit concerned that Tom or others may see it
differently.
> E.g.
> SELECT * FROM (SELECT ('00000000-0000-0000-0000-'||to_char(g.i,
> '000000000000FM'))::uuid uuid FROM generate_series(15000, 0, -1) g(i)) d
> ORDER BY uuid
> reliably triggers abbreviated keys, and it looks to me like that should
> be portable. With a few tweaks it'd be fairly easy to use that to
> provide some OK coverage for most the abbrev key cases.
I agree.
> Yes, that's kind of my point? Either that patch reduced coverage, or it
> created dead code. Neither is good.
I agree.
> > mergeruns() doesn't use abbreviated keys -- this code disables their
> > use in the standard way.
>
> Well, then reformulate the point that we should have coverage for
> mergeruns() when initially abbreviated keys were set up.
That doesn't seem essentially, but I'm okay with it.
> > I had to convince Tom to get the coverage of external sorts we have
> > now. Apparently there are buildfarm animals that are very sensitive to
> > that cost, that could have substantially increased test runtimes were
> > we to do more. Perhaps this could be revisited.
>
> Hm. I'm a bit confused. Isn't all that's required to set a tiny amount
> of work_mem? Then it's easy to trigger many passes without a lot of IO?
Yes, but Tom felt that this might not be good enough when this was
discussed in 2016. However, I seem to recall that he was pleasantly
surprised at how small the overhead turned out to be.
It's hard for me to test how much overhead this will have on a machine
with horribly slow I/O. Though I just bought a new Raspberry Pi, and
could test on that when I get back home from my trip to Europe -- it
uses an SD card, which is pretty slow.
> I'm not saying that tuplesort has gotten worse or anything. Just that
> there's been too much development without adding tests.
I agree.
--
Peter Geoghegan
